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Dave Coull
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| Ultra wrote: | | You seem to be hung up on the fact that people choose to use users names instead of their own names |
For me, the widespread use of pseudo-names does seem to be rather an unhealthy trend. I know it seems "normal" to many people at present, but, historically speaking, I think it quite possible that this will prove to be an aberration. One of those fads which happen for a half a century or so, and then go out of fashion. Nevertheless, like I said | Quote: | | I accept that some folk may have legitimate reasons for using a pseudoname |
HOWEVER | Quote: | | for anybody who hides their identity to spread deliberate falsehoods about folk more open than themselves is just despicable. |
I then went on to explain | Quote: | | The majority of folk don't spread deliberate falsehoods. It is the spreading of deliberate falsehoods which is wrong, and the doing so from behind cover which makes it contemptible. |
| Bravehand wrote: | | Dave has a point, people should be willing to stand by their words |
I accept that if somebody wants to express support, or disagreement, with an idea (such as Independence, or Union, or Capitalism, or Socialism, or Christianity, or Atheism, or whatever}, then it's perfectly okay that they should do so anonymously. Likewise, if somebody wants to express support for, or disagreement with, some political party, or other organisation, then it's perfectly okay that they should do so anonymously. But when somebody suddenly indulges in a personal attack, then it seems to me they should have the decency to make it personal at both ends. Anything less is sheer cowardice. | Bravehand wrote: | | I chose not to for various reasons (not anything particularly secretive) and Dave hasn't attacked me. |
Well, you haven't been spreading any gratuitous personal lies about me. Or about anybody else, so far as I know. | Ultra wrote: | | Do you subject every new poster to this forum with the same line of question |
Everybody on here was at one time a "new poster". Well, apart from Azzurri, that is. The forum was already long established when I joined. | Ultra wrote: | | Do you subject every new poster to this forum with the same line of question |
Bravehand has already answered that question. | Bravehand wrote: | | He is far from paranoid about it and he does have a point.........It's also not a bad policy to not shove yourself about too much publicly on the net, you never know... |
I realise that, at times, I may be too open for my own good. But, from my point of view, secrecy and pretence are unhealthy. | Bravehand wrote: | | As for giving the forum a miss, Dave has earned his place as has Aventinian |
Although many Unionists have spent some time on this forum, Aventinian has certainly shown far more staying power than most. (I was going to give an honourable mention to "William Cleland" here, but, while certainly not nationalist, William's position is probably a bit too subtle to simply describe as "Unionist".)
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Ultra
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Bravehand wrote: | Dave has a point, people should be willing to stand by their words with their names.
I chose not to for various reasons (not anything particularly secretive) and Dave hasn't attacked me. He is far from paranoid about it and he does have a point. I do hope that I don't write anything where I would be better to hide.
It's also not a bad policy to not shove yourself about too much publicly on the net, you never know...
As for giving the forum a miss, Dave has earned his place as has Aventinian (with whom I disagree but his place is solid despite his annoying assertion from time to time).
Add a few thousand posts before you suggest people should give things a miss.
I suspect the truth is your not terribly happy here yourself but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
Bravehand,
This is nothing more than a tired old forum frequented by leftie extremist fundamentalist types involved in the murky world of fragmented fringe politics in Scotland.
There are millions of forums out there on the internet. Most people of my generation have moved on to Bebo, Facebook, and Twitter as forums are old hat.
This forum contributers are not really any better than the right wing BNP extremist types and pretty similar in fact that most of the people on here are just as xenophobic, bigoted, and extremist in their point of view. Just at the other extreme end of the political spectrum. Paranoid to the extreme and some of the most disagreeable people you are ever liable to encounter.
If judging people on the sheer amount of posts they have on a forum like this makes you happy, you need to get out into the real world and make some real friends and get a life.
I am neither happy nor sad about a forum like this. It's just not really that important to get worked up about either way in the scheme of things.
Judging by the same top posters and the lack of activity, it's the same dozen people who post on a regular basis. Sadly, I would rather not waste my time accumulating 1000's of posts on here.
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Ultra
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Joined: 29 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | For me, the widespread use of pseudo-names does seem to be rather an unhealthy trend. I know it seems "normal" to many people at present, but, historically speaking, I think it quite possible that this will prove to be an aberration. One of those fads which happen for a half a century or so, and then go out of fashion. |
I hate to completely rubbish your theory on people using user names as being some sort of fashionable trend in IT, however, having used various forms of the internet for the last 20 years, people have always used users name be it on things like Prestel in the old BBC computer days or the internet as it is now. It is nothing new and recommended by most IT experts as security precautions.
| Dave Coull wrote: | | Everybody on here was at one time a "new poster". Well, apart from Azzurri, that is. The forum was already long established when I joined. |
Considering I have seen 4 seperate threads with the same line of questions to new posters instigated by yourself Dave, this one included, I would like you to answer why you continually abuse new posters like some sort of forum bully and not pass the buck on to one of your cronies. Is it because they don't agree with your extremist views or your opinion matters the most in your world?
| Dave Coull wrote: | | I realise that, at times, I may be too open for my own good. But, from my point of view, secrecy and pretence are unhealthy. |
Yes like giving an interview to the NOTW 
When it didn't quite go to plan you spent even more time in blog land claiming you had been mis-quoted and then shunned by most other fringe leftie independence groups as most intelligent folk know what gutter press the NOTW are and not to speak to them.
It's amazing what knowledge you can build up on someone if you know where to look. |
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azzuri
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Joined: 12 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Bravehand wrote: | Dave has a point, people should be willing to stand by their words with their names.
I chose not to for various reasons (not anything particularly secretive) and Dave hasn't attacked me. He is far from paranoid about it and he does have a point. I do hope that I don't write anything where I would be better to hide.
It's also not a bad policy to not shove yourself about too much publicly on the net, you never know...
As for giving the forum a miss, Dave has earned his place as has Aventinian (with whom I disagree but his place is solid despite his annoying assertion from time to time).
Add a few thousand posts before you suggest people should give things a miss.
I suspect the truth is your not terribly happy here yourself but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
Bravehand,
This is nothing more than a tired old forum frequented by leftie extremist fundamentalist types involved in the murky world of fragmented fringe politics in Scotland.
There are millions of forums out there on the internet. Most people of my generation have moved on to Bebo, Facebook, and Twitter as forums are old hat.
This forum contributers are not really any better than the right wing BNP extremist types and pretty similar in fact that most of the people on here are just as xenophobic, bigoted, and extremist in their point of view. Just at the other extreme end of the political spectrum. Paranoid to the extreme and some of the most disagreeable people you are ever liable to encounter.
If judging people on the sheer amount of posts they have on a forum like this makes you happy, you need to get out into the real world and make some real friends and get a life.
I am neither happy nor sad about a forum like this. It's just not really that important to get worked up about either way in the scheme of things.
Judging by the same top posters and the lack of activity, it's the same dozen people who post on a regular basis. Sadly, I would rather not waste my time accumulating 1000's of posts on here.
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Hi Ultra, welcome to the forums. 
I'll politely disagree with both your view of the posters here and that of the importance of forums. I've no doubt that Scottish politics is a bit of a niche interest, hence why there are so few people here to discuss day-to-day political issues.
To say that young people 'have moved' to bebo and facebook and that forums 'are old hat' is complete nonsense, given that social-networking sites such as those were a completely new development and were not taking users from forums or messageboards. Social networking sites are used to connect with people you already know (mostly), whereas forums such as this are not about connecting with individuals, but discussing your particular topic of interest.
Unmediated access to niche expertise or interests such as 'Scottish politics' is thriving and is very much a part of the now and of the future. In my opinion, this is due to the 'dumbing down' of the media, it not offering stimulating content for those who are interested in said topics in the first place and are thus abandoning 'old media' in favour of places like this.
We don't need the traditional print media any longer in order to spread a message or discuss issues that are important to us as individuals. The internet gives people the chance to connect with each other, and millions of forums such as this one exist on their own particular niche. The beauty of it is that you can create your own site or blog in seconds. Not everyone will care, but some will, and they will find your work. There's no money in it, but dedicated enthusiasts aren't motivated by money. The number of people involved in discussions on this site doesn't matter to me, thus I can't see how it might bother someone else either. If only 1 other person were using this site regularly and share the passion to vigorously defend their views on here, then that is enough for me. Anyone that determines the 'value' of a website based on the number of regular visitors is mistaken, in my humble opinion.
Stick around, you might actually like it here...
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Ultra
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| azzuri wrote: |
Hi Ultra, welcome to the forums.
I'll politely disagree with both your view of the posters here and that of the importance of forums. I've no doubt that Scottish politics is a bit of a niche interest, hence why there are so few people here to discuss day-to-day political issues.
To say that young people 'have moved' to bebo and facebook and that forums 'are old hat' is complete nonsense, given that social-networking sites such as those were a completely new development and were not taking users from forums or messageboards. Social networking sites are used to connect with people you already know (mostly), whereas forums such as this are not about connecting with individuals, but discussing your particular topic of interest.
Unmediated access to niche expertise or interests such as 'Scottish politics' is thriving and is very much a part of the now and of the future. In my opinion, this is due to the 'dumbing down' of the media, it not offering stimulating content for those who are interested in said topics in the first place and are thus abandoning 'old media' in favour of places like this.
We don't need the traditional print media any longer in order to spread a message or discuss issues that are important to us as individuals. The internet gives people the chance to connect with each other, and millions of forums such as this one exist on their own particular niche. The beauty of it is that you can create your own site or blog in seconds. Not everyone will care, but some will, and they will find your work. There's no money in it, but dedicated enthusiasts aren't motivated by money. The number of people involved in discussions on this site doesn't matter to me, thus I can't see how it might bother someone else either. If only 1 other person were using this site regularly and share the passion to vigorously defend their views on here, then that is enough for me. Anyone that determines the 'value' of a website based on the number of regular visitors is mistaken, in my humble opinion.
Stick around, you might actually like it here... |
Hi Azzuri,
Thank you for the polite introduction and making me feel welcome. 
I have had a few decent debates on here with a few posters already. So all is not lost.
I disagree re:forums though. Just as easy to create an interest group on Facebook or Myspace for like minded people than it is to build a forum. Also, far easier to build up a network of likeminded people by finding them rather than people coming across your forum by chance. Plus references to rather old stickies and the copyright tag going back a few years suggests this forum may well have had it's day. Just my humble opinion of course. I am sure you are a busy fellow. Plus the amount of posters would no doubt help generate much needed funds by way of Google ads. 
The number of people who would post on here doesn't bother me. People who continually question the motives of new posters and instigate childish name calling deserve to be put in their place.
I may well stick around as it's been interesting so far.
I look forward to deabting some issues with you meatime. |
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | having used various forms of the internet for the last 20 years |
It is an illusion that what happens "now" is the last word on what will happen. This illusion was around in the "anything goes" days of the 1920s, it was around when Teddy Boys were jiving to Bill Haley and the Comets in the 1950s, it was around with the hippies of the 1960s, it was around when Francis Fukiyama wrote "The End of History" in 1990, in fact, it is around in every age, but it's an illusion nevertheless. Like I said, something that is fashionable now could turn out to be just | Quote: | | One of those fads which happen for a half a century or so |
some day, you may look back on what you are writing now, and feel your cheeks turn red with embarrassment at your youthful ignorance. | Ultra wrote: | | I would like you to answer why you continually abuse new posters |
I don't. There are plenty of people here on this forum who were at one time "new posters" who were not "continually abused" by me. However, I will always respond vigorously to attacks. Quite a few folk of strongly Unionist views, as well as some folk who could perhaps be classified simply as "trolls" deliberately looking for trouble, do turn up on this generally independence-supporting forum and set out just to attack, rather than debate, right from the start. When people do that, it is hypocritical for them to act as if they are shocked by the response. Surely it ought to be possible to argue for an opposing viewpoint without feeling the need to continually attack those who support independence? However, note that, when things have developed into personal abuse, this has generally been started by the aforementioned Unionists and/or "trolls". In your case, it's a matter of record, as can be seen by anybody who bothers to check the archives, that it was you who made personal attacks on me, and not the other way round, and I merely responded. | Ultra wrote: | | It's amazing what knowledge you can build up on someone if you know where to look. |
I don't believe in trying to hide secrets. I believe in open-ness, as a matter of principle. This can have its disadvantages, obviously, in that anybody who wants to make personal attacks on me can easily find loads of stuff to use. But it is still the case that those who do this from behind cover are cowards. |
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Most people of my generation have moved on to Bebo, Facebook, and Twitter |
My wife is on both Twitter and Facebook and she keeps trying to get me to join. But Twitter is limited to 140 characters and it's very difficult to have a discussion with such a limit. | Ultra wrote: | | This forum contributers are not really any better than the right wing BNP |
The contributors here are better in at least one way: the BNP are racist, most folk on here are not. |
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Ultra
This is Ma' Life!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: | It is an illusion that what happens "now" is the last word on what will happen. This illusion was around in the "anything goes" days of the 1920s, it was around when Teddy Boys were jiving to Bill Haley and the Comets in the 1950s, it was around with the hippies of the 1960s, it was around when Francis Fukiyama wrote "The End of History" in 1990, in fact, it is around in every age, but it's an illusion nevertheless. Like I said, something that is fashionable now could turn out to be just | Quote: | | One of those fads which happen for a half a century or so |
some day, you may look back on what you are writing now, and feel your cheeks turn red with embarrassment at your youthful ignorance. |
Not sure what part of people using user names instead of real names on the net isn't some sort of fashion trend you don't understand. Maybe you just aren't fashionable. People always have used users names. That's the point. It's folk who somehow want to stand out or need attention who use their real names. 15 minutes of fame etc. Media types, extremists...
Then again I may not look back at any forums as they may well just disappear into cyber space once the admins get fed up and hit the delete button like alot of other forums.
| Dave Coull wrote: |
I don't. There are plenty of people here on this forum who were at one time "new posters" who were not "continually abused" by me. However, I will always respond vigorously to attacks. Quite a few folk of strongly Unionist views, as well as some folk who could perhaps be classified simply as "trolls" deliberately looking for trouble, do turn up on this generally independence-supporting forum and set out just to attack, rather than debate, right from the start. When people do that, it is hypocritical for them to act as if they are shocked by the response. Surely it ought to be possible to argue for an opposing viewpoint without feeling the need to continually attack those who support independence? However, note that, when things have developed into personal abuse, this has generally been started by the aforementioned Unionists and/or "trolls". In your case, it's a matter of record, as can be seen by anybody who bothers to check the archives, that it was you who made personal attacks on me, and not the other way round, and I merely responded. |
So 4 threads and counting so far featuring new posters and the main instigator is good ole Dave with the standard unionist bashing or just general abuse because the person doesn't agree with one of lifes dis-agreeable people and dares question your warped view on life nevermind independence. 
| Dave Coull wrote: | | I don't believe in trying to hide secrets. I believe in open-ness, as a matter of principle. This can have its disadvantages, obviously, in that anybody who wants to make personal attacks on me can easily find loads of stuff to use. But it is still the case that those who do this from behind cover are cowards. |
Yeah your photo for one. Oh dear.....
In the scheme of things, you aren't important or interesting. Get over yourself. It's keeping you occupied and useful replying to me.
From what I have read, these people are far from cowards or anonymous in the world of Scottish politics who have ridiculed you and even a national newspaper has held you up as a fundamentalist figure of fun on independence.
This is my last words to you on here. Like I said to Azzuri, some people are intelligent and have put forward their point of view and I have had a decent debate with them. Folk like you are best just ignored and left to fester in the corner.
Your views are of no consequence. |
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Dave Coull
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I had said all I'd got to say on the subject of Tommy Sheridan by nearly three months ago, and really had nothing to add to that. However, obviously, if somebody makes personal attacks on me under this heading, then I'm going to respond. When "Ultra" first started posting here, I DISAGREED with his political views. But there was absolutely nothing personal in it. Things only started to get personal when he started making false personal assumptions about me. Up until that point, there had been disagreements, but not personal ones. I think the first false assumption was when he referred to me as being an "SNP fundamentalist". Since I've never been a member of the SNP, I responded by pointing out how wrong that was. Despite which, he then went on to accuse me of "following the party line". It became clear that, to use a footballing analogy, "Ultra" was "going for the man and not the ball". In other words, attacking on personal, not political, grounds. The next bit of personal abuse from "Ultra" was to accuse me of being "on drugs". Ultra followed that up with | Quote: | | Here's more assumptions about you |
several of which proved to be clearly wrong, on matters of fact, not opinion, and yet have never been withdrawn.Having been in receipt of an OLD AGE pension for quite a few years, that's false.False. Retired. Both of these personal assumptions on matters of FACT (not opinion) were wrong, but, instead of acknowledging being wrong, "Ultra" pressed on with more false personal assumptions. | Quote: | | local Government/civil service worker type. |
Again, false, having worked most of my life in the building industry, mostly as a bricklayer.
Regarding things some other folk have written, | Ultra wrote: | | From what I have read, these people are far from cowards or anonymous in the world of Scottish politics |
I haven't described anybody who uses their own name as "cowards". "Liars", possibly, in some cases, yes, but not "cowards". In your case, however, you persisted in stating lies about me while using a false name. That is why I described you as a cowardly liar. I think it is reasonable to describe as a "liar" somebody who persists in stating as fact personal things which they just made up about somebody else. If they do this while using a false name (and thus taking no responsibility for their own words) I think it reasonable to describe such a person as a "cowardly liar". |
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mairead
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Ultra and Dave,
This thread has become like a school playground with two stuborn squabbling boys, neither of whom will give an inch.
It is of no great importance and has no significance at whatsoever , whether a user name or a real name is used when posting. What a pathetic thing to be arguing about.
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| mairead wrote: | | It is of no great importance and has no significance at whatsoever , whether a user name or a real name is used |
That wasn't what the disagreement was about. |
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landg
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| Dave Coull wrote: | I had said all I'd got to say on the subject of Tommy Sheridan by nearly three months ago, and really had nothing to add to that. However, obviously, if somebody makes personal attacks on me under this heading, then I'm going to respond. When "Ultra" first started posting here, I DISAGREED with his political views. But there was absolutely nothing personal in it. Things only started to get personal when he started making false personal assumptions about me. Up until that point, there had been disagreements, but not personal ones. I think the first false assumption was when he referred to me as being an "SNP fundamentalist". Since I've never been a member of the SNP, I responded by pointing out how wrong that was. Despite which, he then went on to accuse me of "following the party line". It became clear that, to use a footballing analogy, "Ultra" was "going for the man and not the ball". In other words, attacking on personal, not political, grounds. The next bit of personal abuse from "Ultra" was to accuse me of being "on drugs". Ultra followed that up with | Quote: | | Here's more assumptions about you |
several of which proved to be clearly wrong, on matters of fact, not opinion, and yet have never been withdrawn.Having been in receipt of an OLD AGE pension for quite a few years, that's false.False. Retired. Both of these personal assumptions on matters of FACT (not opinion) were wrong, but, instead of acknowledging being wrong, "Ultra" pressed on with more false personal assumptions. | Quote: | | local Government/civil service worker type. |
Again, false, having worked most of my life in the building industry, mostly as a bricklayer.
Regarding things some other folk have written, | Ultra wrote: | | From what I have read, these people are far from cowards or anonymous in the world of Scottish politics |
I haven't described anybody who uses their own name as "cowards". "Liars", possibly, in some cases, yes, but not "cowards". In your case, however, you persisted in stating lies about me while using a false name. That is why I described you as a cowardly liar. I think it is reasonable to describe as a "liar" somebody who persists in stating as fact personal things which they just made up about somebody else. If they do this while using a false name (and thus taking no responsibility for their own words) I think it reasonable to describe such a person as a "cowardly liar". |
thats all well and good but it does not change the fact your a fundamentalist bafoon. |
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mairead
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True Dave, the thread was originally about Tommy Sheridan before user/real names came up then the insults and innuendo started.
Could we perhaps take it back to Tommy Sheridan then?
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Stevie
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Ah yes dear folks. Would you kindly stop this discussion here and form a separate thread about the merits and demerits of using your real name. This seems to be surfacing in different places like an unwanted virus.
If it helps, you're both right.
Oh yes, I think this forum is very relevant and twitter just doesn't feel right or lend itself well to focus particularly on a Scottish debating forum in my opinion.
You may be right but you may be wrong. In any case I like it here.
Oh incidentally, does anyone have up to date info on Tommy's case?
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Dave Coull
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| Bravehand wrote: | | form a separate thread about the merits and demerits of using your real name |
No.
Because, as I have already pointed out, that isn't what the disagreement was about. |
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Oh incidentally, does anyone have up to date info on Tommy's case? |
According to the Scotsman, it is supposed to be in January.
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landg
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| ehm, what happened to my post about sheridan going to jail? |
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Rinty
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I think that the issue of pseudonyms is relevant to this thread as, as most of the regular users of this site will know, Sheridan is an issue where people have used a pseudonym to make direct accusations and/or personal attacks. This is very different from having a political discourse under a pseudonym.
I use a nickname in this site but my own name (Jim Monaghan) most other places. I make no secret of my name here but prefer to chat here as 'rinty' rather my own name as I am not here as a spokesperson for any person or group, I often am under my real name.
The latest on the case is that there is a further hearing on Oct 26 with the trial likely to be in Feb.
I would advise the mods to err on the side of caution when people discuss issues relating to evidence or witnesses in the actual trial as it is a live proceeding. One earlier post refers to a newspaper story and isnt actually fact, yet is directly relevant to the case.
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landg
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| landg wrote: | | ehm, what happened to my post about sheridan going to jail? |
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Stevie
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I agree that people use their pseudonyms to say horrid things as they similarly do with smiley faces added to insults.
There's no need for that, it's a childish lack of self control let loose.
I keep my identity secret because I don't need any political hassle because I live in another country.
I long for the day when it's the anti-independence Scots that no longer have the upper hand. That day is coming judging by the poll Lochaber kindly posted.
Still, this thread could happily lose the ID debate in my humble opinion.
Can Tommy stand as an MSP?
If he can would it get the dogs off his back at all?
Can't K McKaskill do something?
I suppose these are old questions...
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