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Stevie
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 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject: Tories terrorise the meek and the lame. |
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From the Daily Mash : funny but true.
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HALF A MILLION BENEFIT CHEATS THROW THEMSELVES DOWN THE STAIRS
A CONSERVATIVE plan to cut the number of people on incapacity benefit was in tatters today as 500,000 people threw themselves down a staircase.
There's £25 at the bottom
Across Britain council houses and tower blocks echoed to the tell-tale thump of work-shy layabouts hurling themselves towards a guaranteed £25 a week.
Under the Tory plan all those who are deemed fit for work will have their benefits cut and be forced to look for jobs that currently exist only in the mind of Norman Tebbit.
Private training firms will assess all 2.6 million people on incapacity benefit to see what work they might be able to do, which experts say will most likely be assessing people on incapacity benefit to see what work they might be able to do.
Tom Logan, of the London School of Economics said: "By 2014 we should be in a situation where half the country will be assessing the employment capabilities of the other half until they get bored and throw themselves down some stairs.
"They will then join the queue for assessment and will eventually be employed assessing people who have recently thrown themselves down some stairs. And so on."
Tory leader David Cameron denied the move was a return to the harsh Thatcherite policies of the 1980s, adding: "I will personally ram a knitting needle into the thighs of all those who claim they are unfit for honest labour.
"Any scoundrel that lets out a shriek will have the gin bottle snatched from his grasp before being manhandled into the back of a cart and dumped outside the gates of his local cotton mill, bobbin factory or call centre.
"The wretch will then be forced into an upright position where he will learn the virtues of toil and the base immorality of screen breaks.
"If they apply themselves and refrain from griping, then perhaps they will rise to the rank of tradesman and one day may even be in a position to ask me how much money I have." |
The Tories are showing their true blue blood colours again.
(Not aimed at the nice Tory who simply follows the economic nonsense of failed capitalism but is aimed only at the miserable old Thatcherite tory who would shove his granny out on the street for not being able to go out and get a job and earn a decent living. "Granny, if you can sit upright you can work you old c**t".). This ageing population of old b******s who think they can just whinge and suck of the state. They will be mobilised. It's time to reinstate the poll tax. Privatisation, free enterprise, free market economy, free trade...
'Deutschland Deutschland über alles... '
Yes, the old songs are the best.
Some drink to remember, some drink to forget.
When will that old boot finally drink herself to death anyway and make us foot the 3 million pound state funeral bill?
The joke at the Edinburgh festival was :
£3, 000, 000 !!! For that kind of money you can buy every man, woman and child in Scotland a shovel and we'll dig a hole so deep, we'll deliver her to Satan personally.
Oh yes, Ultra you can't do this kind of post on Twitter even if you wanted to.
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landg
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| i'm afraid there are so many abusing the benefits system that hard line policies are required. |
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Shagpile
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Tories terrorise the meek and the lame. |
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| Bravehand wrote: | | The Tories are showing their true blue blood colours again. |
Thing is....... where are all the jobs for those currently claiming this benefit PLUS all those claiming Job Seekers' Allowance?
You're right btw, and what a waste of tax payers' money if they were to follow through on that. I'm sure the money could be better spent on payments to those who would cut the grass on the football pitch size lawns on an MPs second home....... at least the money would have been earned. Even if you have to slip a brown envelope into their greasy palm to get the contract.
Labour are just the same too. Lib Dems....... they pawned THEIR ideoligy to sleep with Labour. There's something about ministerial mondeos that drive them crazy with lust for unawarded power. |
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Ultra
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Tories terrorise the meek and the lame. |
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| Bravehand wrote: |
Oh yes, Ultra you can't do this kind of post on Twitter even if you wanted to. |
Twitters one to many communication. Try it. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Tories terrorise the meek and the lame. |
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| Shagpile wrote: | | Bravehand wrote: | | The Tories are showing their true blue blood colours again. |
You're right btw, and what a waste of tax payers' money if they were to follow through on that. I'm sure the money could be better spent on payments to those who would cut the grass on the football pitch size lawns on an MPs second home....... at least the money would have been earned. |
Thatcher's legacy was to create an indolent lumpen proletariat lost generation.
A simpler solution as I think you said is give them some money and let them earn extra on top tax free.
Them , being the lumpen ones.
Twitter seems to be full of twits (sorry) and they follow you like a virus even if they have nothing in common with you but I'll have a look.
Can you suggest anywhere to look?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Tories terrorise the meek and the lame. |
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| Shagpile wrote: | | Bravehand wrote: | | The Tories are showing their true blue blood colours again. |
Thing is....... where are all the jobs for those currently claiming this benefit PLUS all those claiming Job Seekers' Allowance?
You're right btw, and what a waste of tax payers' money if they were to follow through on that. I'm sure the money could be better spent on payments to those who would cut the grass on the football pitch size lawns on an MPs second home....... at least the money would have been earned. Even if you have to slip a brown envelope into their greasy palm to get the contract.
Labour are just the same too. Lib Dems....... they pawned THEIR ideoligy to sleep with Labour. There's something about ministerial mondeos that drive them crazy with lust for unawarded power. |
there won't be any, but it is cheaper to pay jobseekers allowance than it is to pay incapacity ( to criminals who are ripping you and i off).
2+2= less benefits paid out and we are not being scammed by criminals. win win. |
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My wife suffered a brain haemorrhage which damaged her short term memory and rendered her blind. She receives incapacity benefit. Is she a criminal? Is she ripping you off?
Or are you maybe just an unthinking boor who need to learn to think before opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble?
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Sorry about your wife holeb, can't be easy for you at times.
Don't think he was really meaning genuine cases like yours but the guys who run onto football fields to score a goal and do break dancing on TV.
This mortal coil gets twisted and tangled at times but you are lucky to have each other and that's the thing that counts.
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| Holebender wrote: | My wife suffered a brain haemorrhage which damaged her short term memory and rendered her blind. She receives incapacity benefit. Is she a criminal? Is she ripping you off?
Or are you maybe just an unthinking boor who need to learn to think before opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble? |
for f***s sake, are you that stupid?
do you really think ANYONE thinks that everyone on incapacity is 'at it'.
i want the fraudsters and scammers who are on incapacity (there are hundreds of thousands of them) taken off it and put on the cheaper (to the country) jobsekkers.
get over yourself. |
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| My son is also on incapacity benefit and couldnt possibly work. In fact, I dont know anyone who is on incapacity benefit who shouldnt be. |
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| Rinty wrote: | | My son is also on incapacity benefit and couldnt possibly work. In fact, I dont know anyone who is on incapacity benefit who shouldnt be. |
i've met a lot of people who are on incapacity benefit who are fit to work. and there are a LOT of them out there. they are scamming the system. |
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that maybe the case landg but there are people scamming every system, it doesnt mean that we can start labelling everyone using that system. I know lots of people who work in banks who didnt abuse the system and I know many politicians who dont abuse expenses.
It is very difficult to get incapacity benefit. |
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landg, perhaps you should engage your brain before spouting your offensive generalisations. It is you who comes across as stupid, but that's nothing new.
If you want to look for people scamming the incapacity system look back at the Thatcher government. They had a policy of shifting long-term unemployed people onto incapacity benefits in order to get them off the unemployment register so the figures didn't look so bad. You can't blame the individuals involved for doing what they were told by government representatives.
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The system is the system.
Second guessing the people who decide you qualify for incapacity benefit is frankly pointless and ridiculous.
Especially, I might add, as the criteria are quite stringent as it is.
Anyway, back to the sulphurous one, Thatcher.
She created the problem with her destruction of the job market and her creation of a lost generation.
When will the bringer of evil just f***ing die.
Well, it's a moot point as Alasdair said. She has been cloned and morphed into D Cam GB and Tory Blair...
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| Bravehand wrote: | | When will the bringer of evil just f***ing die. |
Yup, even in death she'll still be screwing the tax payer, state funeral indeed!
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what you fail to understand is that the people scamming the benefits system are the very ones who are taking from the people who genuinely need incapacity benefit. the scammers are the ones who caused the situation where the genuinely incapacitated need to jump through hoops just to get the benefit.
to blame margaret thatcher for 20 year old scumbags scamming the benefits system is just ridiculous.
nice to know your looking forward to someone dying. what a lovely and considerate person you are.what a horrible mindset to have. |
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| Alasdair wrote: | | Yup, even in death she'll still be screwing the tax payer, state funeral indeed! |
Whenever I speak of Thatchula, invective quickly turns to expletive. Why that creature merits a state funeral is quite beyond the understanding of all but G B her disciple.
State funeral for John Major next?
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| Holebender wrote: | landg, perhaps you should engage your brain before spouting your offensive generalisations. It is you who comes across as stupid, but that's nothing new.
If you want to look for people scamming the incapacity system look back at the Thatcher government. They had a policy of shifting long-term unemployed people onto incapacity benefits in order to get them off the unemployment register so the figures didn't look so bad. You can't blame the individuals involved for doing what they were told by government representatives. |
Thatcher has not been in Government for decades but people still blame her for the countries ills.
Not everyone on benefits is scamming the system.
But a fair minority do or don't want to work as it's far better and easier to claim benefits. Some of them can't work through drink and drug abuse.
Resources and cash are used up dealing with benefit scammer while genuine claiments suffer and don't get the help and extra cash they need.
I don't know anyone on incapacity benefits these days as I moved out of a Glasgow scheme to a new build estate a few years ago. But when I lived in the scheme folk could tell you how to scam the system. Back pain being the scammers choice of illness.
Still didn't stop these scammers being first in the queue for their benefits or waiting at 8am for the off license to open.
Least the SNP Government have changed the licensing laws and given these folk a few extra hours sleep as it's 10am now. |
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Second guessing the people who decide you qualify for incapacity benefit is frankly pointless and ridiculous.
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really?
why? |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Resources and cash are used up dealing with benefit scammer while genuine claiments suffer and don't get the help and extra cash they need. |
Of course there are some people who would rather exert their fullest energies and motivation into the avoidance of work but Thatcher created an economy based on rich and poor and it's still there.
Moreover, the GBs and D cams of this world think it's acceptable to continue the social divide : GB through apathy and incompetence (billions upon billions in debt); D Cam because it's simply who he is.
It becomes time to pick on the scammers now that the idiot GB has built up enough debt to finance a space program. It's now their fault that GB and the Tories (they sat by and never said much) let the financial institutions run riot.
Oh for the good old days when public debt was in the 10s of billions...
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