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Ultra
This is Ma' Life!
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| Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. 
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azzuri
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
This is a privately run forum, anyone who pleads for 'freedom of speech' is mistaken about exactly what this place is. The reason we pre-approve certain users' posts is because we have had problems with them in the past. Is this not a sensible thing to do?! Posts are never edited, either they are approved or not.
Alternatively, as I've said many times, users are free to set up their own forums, and I'm always here for some free advice if people wish to do so.
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Stevie
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I haven't been following the history but azzuri has a sight more patience and tolerance than mods / administrators on the other political sites.
You must have been a tad naughty.
Personally, I don't like it when people personally insult others even if I disagree fundamentally to the core with the person being insulted because, it insults all of us who partake of the forum.
I'm still waiting for a certain individual to retract his Nazi assertions. Until that time I can't take him seriously even though he can be quite drole at times and can't justify entering into conversation with someone who infers I'm of the ilk of a Nazi.
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mairead
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landg,
You may not approve of other posters views and opinions, you may even say these are foolish but please do not refer to posters as fools. That is insulting, particularly when you know nothing about the people you call fools. I can assure you that, while I may not be the brightest or most educated person on here, I certainly am no fool.
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Ultra
This is Ma' Life!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| mairead wrote: | landg,
You may not approve of other posters views and opinions, you may even say these are foolish but please do not refer to posters as fools. That is insulting, particularly when you know nothing about the people you call fools. I can assure you that, while I may not be the brightest or most educated person on here, I certainly am no fool. |
You are not called Alasdair either. |
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Alasdair
Our Scotland = 2nd Job!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| landg wrote: | | landg wrote: | | Alasdair wrote: | Granted Mairead, their will be examples where freedom of speech is expressly denied by occupation, position, or party that individuals members of ... doesn't cast our society in a particularly great light where, by dint of you being employed, you may lose your ability to speak freely without fear of recrimination or reprisal.
Personally it's just the sort of authoritarian behaviour that makes my subversive sinew knot with intent ... |
my god, you really are that stupid.
might i suggest you look into the codes of conduct for some professions.
codes pof conduct that protect not only the professional but you as well.
but you, being the fool you are, are completely ignorant of that. |
well? |
Well, your tone and your moderation status means I can't be bothered keeping up with what you have to say. Really it's too much like hard work to scroll up and view previous pages just to read your posts.
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landg
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
but it adds to my air of mystery.i like it. |
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landg
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Alasdair wrote: | | landg wrote: | | landg wrote: | | Alasdair wrote: | Granted Mairead, their will be examples where freedom of speech is expressly denied by occupation, position, or party that individuals members of ... doesn't cast our society in a particularly great light where, by dint of you being employed, you may lose your ability to speak freely without fear of recrimination or reprisal.
Personally it's just the sort of authoritarian behaviour that makes my subversive sinew knot with intent ... |
my god, you really are that stupid.
might i suggest you look into the codes of conduct for some professions.
codes pof conduct that protect not only the professional but you as well.
but you, being the fool you are, are completely ignorant of that. |
well? |
Well, your tone and your moderation status means I can't be bothered keeping up with what you have to say. Really it's too much like hard work to scroll up and view previous pages just to read your posts. |
awwwwwwwwnawwwwwwwwww. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thi 'fool' thing is what I was talking about. There's no need and it insults us all. Actually, is there any need for the landg and Ultra show to defend the flying insult of 'fool'.
Again, I didn't actually see the posts but on other less tolerant (and less fun for that matter) you'd be in danger of being banned for continually insulting someone.
As President Jack Nicholson said to the martians, "Why can't we just all get along?". Because, believe it or not, we won't rock and tremble the foundations of the world on this site by taking things a bit too far and a bit too personally.
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Ultra
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Thi 'fool' thing is what I was talking about. There's no need and it insults us all. Actually, is there any need for the landg and Ultra show to defend the flying insult of 'fool'.
Again, I didn't actually see the posts but on other less tolerant (and less fun for that matter) you'd be in danger of being banned for continually insulting someone.
As President Jack Nicholson said to the martians, "Why can't we just all get along?". Because, believe it or not, we won't rock and tremble the foundations of the world on this site by taking things a bit too far and a bit too personally. |
I haven't called anyone a 'fool'. So it's ok for you to insult people? Aye? |
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Ultra
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
Posts are never edited, either they are approved or not.
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We've only got your word for that.... 
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| azzuri wrote: | | This is a privately run forum |
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We've only got your word for that |
Azzurri set this Our Scotland forum up, and has been involved in the running of it. So Azzurri is presumably in a position to point out to you that it's a privately run forum. | azzuri wrote: | | users are free to set up their own forums |
| Ultra wrote: | | We've only got your word for that |
No, I think it's a reasonably accurate general statement. There are thousands of forums of many different kinds on the internet. | azzuri wrote: | | I'm always here for some free advice if people wish to do so. |
| Ultra wrote: | | We've only got your word for that |
You're saying you don't believe Azzurri would really give free advice on how to go about setting up your own forum? Personally, I think it's probably a genuine offer, but there would really only be one way to find out. |
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azzuri
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
Posts are never edited, either they are approved or not.
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We've only got your word for that.... |
True; well, sort of. You could ask many of the users on here how many of their posts have been edited as a guide.
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." - Alexander Tytler
"There are four ways to spend money. A) You can spend your money on yourself, in which case you will strive for a mix of the best bargain and the best quality. B) You can spend your money on someone else, in which case you are still interested in a bargain, but the quality of the product or service becomes secondary. C) You can spend other people's money on yourself, in which case price is no object but quality becomes a great concern. D) Finally, you can spend other people's money on other people, in which case neither price nor quality is of great concern."
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Ultra
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
Posts are never edited, either they are approved or not.
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We've only got your word for that.... |
True; well, sort of. You could ask many of the users on here how many of their posts have been edited as a guide. |
How would any of the users know? Do they get to read moderated posts before they are published?
I am really struggling to see why Landg posts are moderated in the first place. You may not agree with him/her but seems like blatant censorship or discrimination on your part judging by the posts I have read. Not any worse than some of the comments I have seen by other users. |
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Holebender
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I suggest to read a little more carefully. Azurri clearly says to ask users how many of their posts have been edited. In my own experience, none of my posts have ever been edited.
You have only been a member for two weeks and I don't know how far back you have read so I don't know how well you can judge the situation. Landg earned his current moderated status by making several unacceptable posts some time back. Perhaps he will be rehabilitated some day, but that's up to the moderators.
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azzuri
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Landg wrote: | | This post is awaiting approval by a mod/admin before it will be shown to other users. |
Doesn't look like freedom of speech when posts are moderated and edited to suit. |
Posts are never edited, either they are approved or not.
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We've only got your word for that.... |
True; well, sort of. You could ask many of the users on here how many of their posts have been edited as a guide. |
How would any of the users know? Do they get to read moderated posts before they are published?
I am really struggling to see why Landg posts are moderated in the first place. You may not agree with him/her but seems like blatant censorship or discrimination on your part judging by the posts I have read. Not any worse than some of the comments I have seen by other users. |
Whether I agree with him/her is completely irrelevant. If disagreeing with someone's views meant that their posts were moderated, then every user on the site would have this done!
There are various reasons why this user's posts are moderated, none of which I'm willing to disclose but suffice to say we only do this in EXTREME circumstances.
Checking every single post of 'landg' on this forum wouldn't even begin to give you a clue as to why his/her comments are moderated.
You'll need to take my word on that.
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"Every single person on this planet is unique. Just like everyone else..." - Random Guy in Edinburgh Pub
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." - Alexander Tytler
"There are four ways to spend money. A) You can spend your money on yourself, in which case you will strive for a mix of the best bargain and the best quality. B) You can spend your money on someone else, in which case you are still interested in a bargain, but the quality of the product or service becomes secondary. C) You can spend other people's money on yourself, in which case price is no object but quality becomes a great concern. D) Finally, you can spend other people's money on other people, in which case neither price nor quality is of great concern."
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Stevie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | I am really struggling to see why Landg posts are moderated in the first place. You may not agree with him/her but seems like blatant censorship or discrimination on your part judging by the posts I have read. Not any worse than some of the comments I have seen by other users. |
azzuri couldn't care less if he agrees or disagrees with a poster's views/opinions as long as the person is being honest and not deliberately a troll.
I'm quite sure I've posted things he doesn't agree with and I've not been edited. I'm sure this place is more interesting because we are not all in agreement.
Dear Ultra, azzuri only does this in extreme circumstances. It's reasonable to assume he has genuine reasons and it's unreasonable to accuse such easy-going moderators (too easy-going sometimes) of bias.
'rehabilitated'... like that.
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Aventinian
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So, Dave's pedantry thread, is it?
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Stevie
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Don't know what thread you're referring to but that is funny.
Shame you think it's okay to infer people are secret Nazis.
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Ultra
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| Stevie wrote: | Don't know what thread you're referring to but that is funny.
Shame you think it's okay to infer people are secret Nazis. |
What you do in the comfort of your own home is your own business.
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