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Stevie
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A translation company is looking to recruit Glaswegian interpreters to help business clients who are baffled by the local dialect.
Today Translations placed an advert in The Herald newspaper on Tuesday seeking speakers of "Glaswegian English".
Ah, that's what a weegie is...
I thought it was a way of communicating with the spirit world.
The Glasgow accent can be a challenge but if you work your way through it you get to Billy Connolly and it's worth it.
Oh Kevin, if you should read this, it's true. Go to Youtube and check out Billy Connolly, especially his most recent work. The man is very very witty/funny.
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Holebender
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Erm... I beg to differ. Early Billy Connolly definitely was very funny, but his later stuff is pants, as they say. He is singularly unfunny and waaaaaay too far up himself.
Robin Williams doing a drunk Scotsman inventing golf is much funnier than anything Connolly's done in decades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OmnP527Dw
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Stevie
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Ah well, he makes me laugh and that's not an easy thing to do.
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Dave Coull
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| Holebender wrote: | | Early Billy Connolly definitely was very funny |
Yes, and the Billy of the Latter day Pants isnae. | Holebender wrote: | | Robin Williams doing a drunk Scotsman inventing golf |
I haven't forgiven Robin Williams for Mrs Doubtfire. In that movie, at one point, as the title character, he appears to become emotional, and talks, in a Scottish accent, about how dreadfully he misses "Dear old England". Now, okay, he is an actor playing the part of somebody who is playing a part, but he says this to his wife's English boyfriend. Any English person hearing somebody speaking in a Scottish accent about how dreadfully they miss "dear old England" would immediately suspect this person was not what they appeared to be. |
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There are depths and layers to Mrs Doubtfire one misses at first glance...
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Kevin
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| Stevie wrote: | A translation company is looking to recruit Glaswegian interpreters to help business clients who are baffled by the local dialect.
Today Translations placed an advert in The Herald newspaper on Tuesday seeking speakers of "Glaswegian English".
Ah, that's what a weegie is...
I thought it was a way of communicating with the spirit world.
The Glasgow accent can be a challenge but if you work your way through it you get to Billy Connolly and it's worth it.
Oh Kevin, if you should read this, it's true. Go to Youtube and check out Billy Connolly, especially his most recent work. The man is very very witty/funny. |
I watched a video and it was hilarious. I didn't have any trouble understanding him.
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Dave Coull
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| Stevie wrote: | | There are depths and layers to Mrs Doubtfire one misses at first glance... |
Okay then, go on, enlighten me. What could possibly justify such a glaringly inappropriate scene? I say, regardless of what other "depths" and "layers" the film may have had, that particular scene was very shallow, a huge blunder, arising out of sheer ignorance. Maybe Robin Williams thought a Scottish character really would talk about "going home to dear old England"; or maybe Robin Williams knew the "going home to dear old England" remark was inappropriate, but thought that the character he was playing would not realise this; but even if we give him the benefit of the doubt over that, how come neither he, nor the other actor in the scene, nor anybody else connected with the film, had the sense to realise that such a remark, spoken in a Scottish accent, would have sounded so odd as to set alarm bells ringing for the character of his ex-wife's English boyfriend? |
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Stevie
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Irony.
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | I haven't forgiven Robin Williams for Mrs Doubtfire. In that movie, at one point, as the title character, he appears to become emotional, and talks, in a Scottish accent, about how dreadfully he misses "Dear old England". Now, okay, he is an actor playing the part of somebody who is playing a part, but he says this to his wife's English boyfriend. Any English person hearing somebody speaking in a Scottish accent about how dreadfully they miss "dear old England" would immediately suspect this person was not what they appeared to be. |
I hate to break this news to you... but many, many people Stateside, and Worldwide probably, refer to the UK and its contituent parts as "England". It's really only some home growns - like you - who get hung up about it. |
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Dave Coull
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| Fidget wrote: | | I hate to break this news to you... but many, many people Stateside, and Worldwide probably, refer to the UK and its contituent parts as "England". |
This is not news. My wife was born in the USA, my children all have US passports, my in-laws are American, and I have visited the USA many times, the most recent time being just a couple of months ago. But how US citizens, and others world-wide, refer to the UK, is BESIDE THE POINT . The point is, in that film, Robin Williams was pretending to be Scottish, and, in the scene in question, was speaking to a supposedly English character (the lead character's ex-wife's English boyfriend) who does not consider Mrs Doubtfire's words strange - whereas, in real life, any English person would have immediately thought "hang on a minute, that's odd..................." |
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Fidget
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| So why are you hung up about it then? It's a movie, and a slapstick one at that. How anybody can be so highly strung over it is a bit worrying. |
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Does anybody really really want a weegie if they're being truly honest?
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Holebender
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I'm not sure how to break this to you Dave... all the people in Mrs. Doubtfire were actors and they were reading lines. The people who messed up were the writers who created the lines.
The safest assumption is that everybody involved was American and didn't know any better.
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Dave Coull
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| I wrote: | | in that film, Robin Williams was pretending to be Scottish, and, in the scene in question, was speaking to a supposedly English character (the lead character's ex-wife's English boyfriend) who does not consider Mrs Doubtfire's words strange - whereas, in real life, any English person would have immediately thought "hang on a minute, that's odd..................." |
| Fidget wrote: | | it is a bit worrying. |
Some movies I like, some I don't like, some are a mixture of like and dislike. So what are you so worried about? Robin Williams has done some things I thought were good. In this particular case, in that particular scene, I thought he was leaden-footed. | Holebender wrote: | | all the people in Mrs. Doubtfire were actors and they were reading lines |
Look, I realise that, in general, actors are not required to be particularly bright, but are there never any occasions when they look at a line and say "are you sure about this?" | Holebender wrote: | | The people who messed up were the writers who created the lines |
And also the actors who spoke them. | Holebender wrote: | | The safest assumption is that everybody involved was American and didn't know any better. |
I'm pretty sure the actor playing the wife's boyfriend wasn't American, and MUST have known better, and yet went along with Robin Williams's stupidity. |
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You mean he went along with the writers' stupidity, or maybe the director's stupidity. I think it's pretty unfair to blame an American actor for not knowing the significance of the line he said.
For all you know, all the actors protested vehemently but the director and/or writers decided to go with the line anyway.
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | I wrote: | | in that film, Robin Williams was pretending to be Scottish, and, in the scene in question, was speaking to a supposedly English character (the lead character's ex-wife's English boyfriend) who does not consider Mrs Doubtfire's words strange - whereas, in real life, any English person would have immediately thought "hang on a minute, that's odd..................." |
| Fidget wrote: | | it is a bit worrying. |
Some movies I like, some I don't like, some are a mixture of like and dislike. So what are you so worried about? Robin Williams has done some things I thought were good. In this particular case, in that particular scene, I thought he was leaden-footed |
Your complete obsession with a non issue is what I find worrying. I bet you go mental at folk who forget to spell scotland with a capital "S" as well. You need to lighten up a bit. The world doesn't revolve around the demographics of Scotland and to the extent that you should probably be pleased that people in far flung places have even heard of it instead of carrying on like a complete t**t because of a fluffed line in a movie.  |
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Stevie
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As this thread transforms metamorphoses into a film critique, I would just like to say : I don't really like 'Ms Doubtfire' or 'The World according to Garp' but I do like many of his films.
That's settled then...
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