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Stevie
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Curiously, the English abroad often call themselves Brits.
Moreover there have been 'Great Brits', these were admittedly potatoes.
Brit Nat is a term that has nothing to do with the ugly sectarian discussion you're desperate to provoke.
Brit Nat has no connection to any of that, get over it.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Curiously, the English abroad often call themselves Brits.
Moreover there have been 'Great Brits', these were admittedly potatoes.
Brit Nat is a term that has nothing to do with the ugly sectarian discussion you're desperate to provoke.
Brit Nat has no connection to any of that, get over it. |
Where did I mention sectariamisn Stevie? Brits is a term used as I have described.
What nationality does it say on your passport Stevie?
What does this Brit Nat commentary have to do with your inability to answer the questions put to you on Scottish Government Mortgages? |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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You started on about Northern Ireland and I think that's a pointless area to discuss but you seem awfully interested in it.
Let me reassure you, I have no interest in NI.
Go back to the beginning of the thread.
Are you against social housing?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | You started on about Northern Ireland and I think that's a pointless area to discuss but you seem awfully interested in it.
Let me reassure you, I have no interest in NI.
Go back to the beginning of the thread.
Are you against social housing? |
I don't believe anyone on the thread said they were against social housing.
Several people merely asked you how your scheme would work, propose to pay for it, and fund new social housing when you sell off your housing stock at cost.
Do you want to answer the questions? |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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First post.
Again, you're loyalty to a the deeply in debt British government is clear when you refuse to consider the needs of the Scottish people.
Oh yes, it might cost a bit, but much less than the present system.
The details are just details.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | First post.
Again, you're loyalty to a the deeply in debt British government is clear when you refuse to consider the needs of the Scottish people.
Oh yes, it might cost a bit, but much less than the present system.
The details are just details. |
What are the needs of the Scottish people with regards to social housing Stevie?
What is the present system you refer to Stevie? |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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There aren't enough homes for them at an affordable price.
The present system is not satisfying the need.
Do you have a better suggestion or are you going to argue against good quality homes for Scottish families... I think yes.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | There aren't enough homes for them at an affordable price.
The present system is not satisfying the need.
Do you have a better suggestion or are you going to argue against good quality homes for Scottish families... I think yes. |
Where Stevie?
The last time I checked various housing associations had loads of properties to let at affordable prices in Scotland. They are advertised in the local papers on a regular basis. There were also plenty of private rent houses available for the same affordable prices too.
Lang posted up affordable houses for less than £50k as requested.
The fact of the matter is you have no idea what affordable housing is available in Scotland.
How many more examples do you want people to post up for your benefit?
How many times do you need to be told that nobody is arguing against families in Scotland having good quality houses?
The fact is you have no idea and there is no point in discussing such things with a plastic Scot like you.
It's not like you pay taxes to fund social housing in this country. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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The Brit Nat has little care about developing a better Scotland?
Lots of affordable housing maybe but why are there so many ugly crappy lloking council houses. Scotland needs quality council housing, not just a roof over the head.
'plastic Scot'... boo hoo.
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| Stevie wrote: | There aren't enough homes for them at an affordable price.
The present system is not satisfying the need.
Do you have a better suggestion or are you going to argue against good quality homes for Scottish families... I think yes. |
you are talking crap.
there is plenty of social housing available, i personally see homeless people and assylum seekers homed in a matter of weeks of coming into the system.
i see people on a daily basis getting moves/swaps for council housing all time.
as pointed out already hundreds of priavte lets available at affordable prices.
housing associations have hundreds of properties available.
you can get on the property ladder for less that 20,000 quid just now.
the system is fine as it is.
the main problem with council housing and areas, is, the trash housed in many of them who are anti-social, thieving and usually intoxicated.
being away from scotland has given rise to the situation where you are out of touch with what;s going on. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | The Brit Nat has little care about developing a better Scotland?
Lots of affordable housing maybe but why are there so many ugly crappy lloking council houses. Scotland needs quality council housing, not just a roof over the head.
'plastic Scot'... boo hoo. |
You obviously like people living in crappy ugly housing.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | | Stevie wrote: | The Brit Nat has little care about developing a better Scotland?
Lots of affordable housing maybe but why are there so many ugly crappy lloking council houses. Scotland needs quality council housing, not just a roof over the head.
'plastic Scot'... boo hoo. |
You obviously like people living in crappy ugly housing. |
you syaing all council houses are crappy and ugly?
if people are not happy with their crappy and ugly home (council or private) they are responsible adults and can do something about it.
i've lived in some crappy and ugly places, didnae like it, moved on. and let me tell you, the red road flat are really horrible. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Precisely, but a good home is expensive and these people need help.
Not like you (most expensive area in Scotland) or I (living comfortably).
Scottish council housing is ugly and should be replaced with well insulated good quality housing that people can be proud of.
They're not living in council housing because they're just waiting for that moment to get onto the housing ladder.
This thread is in any case about creating good housing, cheaply built for the tax payer. Not the crappy housing currently enjoyed by the occupants.
I've lived in crap holes too, but I would like people in Scotland to live better quality lives, not just try and crawl up the housing ladder. They need help and if we're going to build social housing it should be attractive and suitable to the Scottish weather and a tad bigger than the council housing currently available.
HOMES.
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| Stevie wrote: | Precisely, but a good home is expensive and these people need help.
Not like you (most expensive area in Scotland) or I (living comfortably).
Scottish council housing is ugly and should be replaced with well insulated good quality housing that people can be proud of.
They're not living in council housing because they're just waiting for that moment to get onto the housing ladder.
This thread is in any case about creating good housing, cheaply built for the tax payer. Not the crappy housing currently enjoyed by the occupants.
I've lived in crap holes too, but I would like people in Scotland to live better quality lives, not just try and crawl up the housing ladder. They need help and if we're going to build social housing it should be attractive and suitable to the Scottish weather and a tad bigger than the council housing currently available.
HOMES. |
i take it i've to pay for this? |
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Fidget
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: |
This thread is in any case about creating good housing, cheaply built for the tax payer. Not the crappy housing currently enjoyed by the occupants. |
Built by the taxpayer, you mean, and it's very unlikey to be 'cheap'. Cheap is to the standard currently on offer
| Stevie wrote: | I've lived in crap holes too, but I would like people in Scotland to live better quality lives, not just try and crawl up the housing ladder. They need help and if we're going to build social housing it should be attractive and suitable to the Scottish weather and a tad bigger than the council housing currently available.
HOMES. |
Your methologies verge on communism you know - from your scottish education to brainwash kids into your idea of economic policy for Scotland to your idea of everybody having their ideal home - paid for by a Scottish government if they don't do it for themselves. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Precisely, but a good home is expensive and these people need help.
Not like you (most expensive area in Scotland) or I (living comfortably).
Scottish council housing is ugly and should be replaced with well insulated good quality housing that people can be proud of.
They're not living in council housing because they're just waiting for that moment to get onto the housing ladder.
This thread is in any case about creating good housing, cheaply built for the tax payer. Not the crappy housing currently enjoyed by the occupants.
I've lived in crap holes too, but I would like people in Scotland to live better quality lives, not just try and crawl up the housing ladder. They need help and if we're going to build social housing it should be attractive and suitable to the Scottish weather and a tad bigger than the council housing currently available.
HOMES. |
and another thing, cheaply built is the cause of many of the building's problems. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Clearly you don't understand that these homes are aimed at people eventually taking a mortgage and paying most of the money back, that's what is meant by cheap.
Do try to keep up.
This has been said a number of times already...
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Clearly you don't understand that these homes are aimed at people eventually taking a mortgage and paying most of the money back, that's what is meant by cheap.
Do try to keep up.
This has been said a number of times already... |
'most' of the money.
this idea gets more stupid by the day.
does that mean i help fund the cheap mortgages for people to only pay 'most' of the money back?
i suspect you would prefer it we just raised taxes,knocked all the old houses down and build brilliant new ones to give away to whoever wanted them. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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You have the idea, except they're not being given away, they're being sold.
It's not very complicated.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | You have the idea, except they're not being given away, they're being sold.
It's not very complicated. |
'mostly' sold.
it's still a crap idea and won't happen.
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