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Fidget
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| landg wrote: | | Fidget wrote: | | landg wrote: |
so, it is about being able to just walk into that dream property and not have to lift a finger.
you start in a shithole, do some work, sell on. buy slightly less of a shithole, do some work, move on.and so on and so on.
how do i know this?
i did it. put the work in cashed in.
this is a brilliant time for first time buyres. |
Nope, for most it's not about walking into a dream property, but walking into an affordable one and that doesn't work if people can afford the price of the house.. but not the funds to do it up, which is something lenders consider when giving out loans on cheap properties in a poor state of repair. |
your talking yourself out of getting on the ladder. get into one of these shared ownerships then.
do something to get on the ladder, best thing you'll ever do.
do not fall into the trap feeling you can;t afford it and have to rent or live in some horrible council scheme. |
It's not me I'm talking about, and seeing that these £20k in bad repair gaffs aren't exactly 10 a penny, even if you had to get one of those first before moving onwards and upwards there'd be an almighty queue for them and that would then mean that they'd be commanding a lot more than their £20k in bad repair current status.
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Stevie
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I never for one second said it was SNP policy.
I think this is a good idea for any country, that's all.
Oh yes, the packet of smarties for knowing more than anybody goes to... who cares.
Your knowledge has little to do with this proposition.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | I never for one second said it was SNP policy.
I think this is a good idea for any country, that's all.
Oh yes, the packet of smarties for knowing more than anybody goes to... who cares.
Your knowledge has little to do with this proposition. |
What that I knew that there is such a thing as a Council Mortgage?
And the SNP Government want to remove your right to buy your council house.
I also know that there is a restriction in place on purchasing new build housing association properties under right to buy too...
So you are right. It's another SNP idea which already exists. So nothing really new or original from the SNPee. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Stevie wrote: | I never for one second said it was SNP policy.
I think this is a good idea for any country, that's all.
Oh yes, the packet of smarties for knowing more than anybody goes to... who cares.
Your knowledge has little to do with this proposition. |
What that I knew that there is such a thing as a Council Mortgage?
And the SNP Government want to remove your right to buy your council house.
I also know that there is a restriction in place on purchasing new build housing association properties under right to buy too...
So you are right. It's another SNP idea which already exists. So nothing really new or original from the SNPee. |
I never said it was SNP policy.
I do think it's a good idea that should be applied to Scotland.
'SNPee'... we're winning if this is your best shot.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Stevie wrote: | I never for one second said it was SNP policy.
I think this is a good idea for any country, that's all.
Oh yes, the packet of smarties for knowing more than anybody goes to... who cares.
Your knowledge has little to do with this proposition. |
What that I knew that there is such a thing as a Council Mortgage?
And the SNP Government want to remove your right to buy your council house.
I also know that there is a restriction in place on purchasing new build housing association properties under right to buy too...
So you are right. It's another SNP idea which already exists. So nothing really new or original from the SNPee. |
I never said it was SNP policy.
I do think it's a good idea that should be applied to Scotland.
'SNPee'... we're winning if this is your best shot. |
It is applied to Scotland or was. Which is my point.
Also, you haven't answered my question on whether you live in a council house or even live in Scotland? |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Such a scheme as I'm proposing has not to my knowledge ever been applied to Scotland.
As far as your superior knowledge... if it makes you happy to think so then be happy.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Such a scheme as I'm proposing has not to my knowledge ever been applied to Scotland.
As far as your superior knowledge... if it makes you happy to think so then be happy. |
What scheme? You haven't proposed anything and couldn't remember what country had such a scheme.
How do you know it hasn't been tried in Scotland? Do you live in Scotland? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Read the beginning posts if you wish to see what was proposed.
Don't be silly, of course it hasn't been tried in Scotland.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Read the beginning posts if you wish to see what was proposed.
Don't be silly, of course it hasn't been tried in Scotland. |
Have you never heard of Right To Buy or read anything I have contributed to the thread if you think what you are proposing has not been tried in Scotland?
Tenants had the opportunity to buy council houses at cost or below cost price and the council were obligated to provide you with a mortgage to do so too.
The money generated was supposed to be used to build or upgrade social housing. But the tenants kept wrecking the housing stock and the councils sold it off to housing associations and the debt was written off. Those housing associations now what more tax payers money to build more social housing. And the cycle continues....
You are obviously extremely silly if you don't understand the points being made and I doubt you know much about social housing if you haven't heard of RTB or shared ownership schemes. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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It's not 'Right to buy' which was a Thatcherite after thought and a way of getting councils to stop investing in social housing.
The money was 'supposed to be'... well, it wasn't was it?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | It's not 'Right to buy' which was a Thatcherite after thought and a way of getting councils to stop investing in social housing.
The money was 'supposed to be'... well, it wasn't was it? |
Such a scheme still existed didn't it? 
The councils transferred the housing stock off to housing associations as that way they got the considerable debt written off accumulated trying to maintain and build more housing for tenants to wreck.
So where is all this land coming from to build social housing and where is the capital coming from to build the housing in your utopia? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Scotland has plenty of land.
Silly argument.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| hmm.. so how come the inhabitants all stay in concentrated pockets of it? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Scotland has plenty of land.
Silly argument. |
I asked who would pay for the housing and land. So not so silly is it?
Scotland may well have loads of spare land but is this spare land able to cope with new housing and have the infrasturcture, transport, water, drainage, and electricity close by? Most of it doesn't which is why it hasn't already been build on and most new build estates are built close by existing commuter routes into Glasgow, Edinburgh, and other big towns.
Most people don't want to live in the middle of nowhere either. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Scotland may well have loads of spare land but is this spare land able to cope with new housing and have the infrasturcture, transport, water, drainage, and electricity close by? |
Ah, you wish to believe that we can't build new houses anywhere new because it's not easy.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | | Ultra wrote: |
Scotland may well have loads of spare land but is this spare land able to cope with new housing and have the infrasturcture, transport, water, drainage, and electricity close by? |
Ah, you wish to believe that we can't build new houses anywhere new because it's not easy. |
So who pays for the land, capital, and infrastructure to build houses in far flung places in Scotland not near existing transport links or infrastructure?
Are you going to answer the question or just continue to ignore it?
Could it be that it's just not cost effective to build housing in far flung places not connected up to infrastructure? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Who said anything about far flung places?
You don't like the idea, so be it and so what?
It's not aimed at you.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | Who said anything about far flung places?
You don't like the idea, so be it and so what?
It's not aimed at you. |
So what indeed.
You cannot answer any of the questions because you live in France bringing up your family in a different country from Scotland.
So really you have no idea what happens when it comes to social housing or even what schemes are in place to help people get on the property ladder.
I laugh at nationalists like you. Talking up Scotalnd and demanding referendums when you don't live here and it's highly unlikely you will ever return.
So pretty much a waste of time discussing any things Scotland with someone who gains their knowledge on what they read in the press or forums. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I laugh at Brits like you... so what?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | | I laugh at Brits like you... so what? |
Would the real slim Stevie please stand up?
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