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Shagpile
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| Holebender wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | So why don't you work in the Scottish oil industry, developing new technology, and contribute to this countries economy fully and not somewhere elses? |
Because I am not parochial.
I am a citizen of the world and the world is my workplace. I work in an international industry and I work all over the world, including in Scotland, as and when required. |
Ultra lives and works in England...... and she's a Brit, pot kettle black?
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Shagpile wrote: | | Ultra lives and works in England |
I think you'll find Ultra is a Labour Party cooncillor in Glasgow who went straight from being a student politician at university to being a full time would-be politician with hopes that, by slavishly toeing the party line enough, fortune, or at least the corrupt Labour bosses, will smile and provide further excuse for never getting a real job. Ultra feels threatened by talk of independence because this might upset these cosy plans. What's more, she's a he. Sort of. |
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Shagpile
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | Shagpile wrote: | | Ultra lives and works in England |
I think you'll find Ultra is a Labour Party cooncillor in Glasgow who went straight from being a student politician at university to being a full time would-be politician with hopes that, by slavishly toeing the party line enough, fortune, or at least the corrupt Labour bosses, will smile and provide further excuse for never getting a real job. Ultra feels threatened by talk of independence because this might upset these cosy plans. What's more, she's a he. Sort of. |
So, one of "Braveheart's" palls then. I was pretty sure I had read in one of her/his posts that she/he was a statistician, working in England.
Still, election looming.............. |
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landg
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this is absurd. a nationalist brings up the pathetic issue of wee,poor and stupid and they then say it is unionists who use this tactic.
pathetic deflection and denial. |
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Stevie
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Yawn.
Brit Nats try and argue that they didn't start all the, 'You can't go it alone' nonsense.
They just can't stop themselves.
Any old discussion for any odd moment that suits.
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Holebender
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ultra wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | Who do you think knows more about the Scottish oil industry, a Scot with no connection to the business or a person who works full time in oil & gas? |
Who says I do not have a connection to the business? |
Why personalise everything? I didn't say a word about you or your knowledge or connections. Look again at the question. It is general, and you didn't answer it.
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Holebender
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: |
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You have to laff... 
the proposition is...there's this phrase that gets repeated. "Scotland is too small, too poor too stupid to survive on its own"
Nationalists say that unionist use it, but unionists say that they only ever see and hear nationalists introduce it to the debate...
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it gets introduced to the debate on this forum....
...on its very own thread, no less...
..by nationalists..!!
how stupid is that?
rather gives te game away! What!
you have to laff!!! |
The proposition is not that the phrase gets used, but that the sentiment is expressed repeatedly by supporters of the union. The thread, if you would bother to read the opening post, was started because you initiated a thread with this very theme. Your thread about the economic case for independence being "sunk" is predicated on your belief that Scotland alone is too small and too poor to bale out failing banks. This thread merely highlights the "too poor, too small, too stupid" thinking which underpins your thread.
But, hey ho, laff(sic) away if it keeps you happy.
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Holebender
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| landg wrote: | this is absurd. a nationalist brings up the pathetic issue of wee,poor and stupid and they then say it is unionists who use this tactic.
pathetic deflection and denial. |
Try reading the opening post. This thread highlights a unionist's thread which is based on the very premise that Scotland on its own is too small and poor to sustain its banking sector. This thread highlights the hypocrisy of those who claim unionists never use the "too poor, too small, too stupid" arguments.
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landg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Holebender wrote: | | landg wrote: | this is absurd. a nationalist brings up the pathetic issue of wee,poor and stupid and they then say it is unionists who use this tactic.
pathetic deflection and denial. |
Try reading the opening post. This thread highlights a unionist's thread which is based on the very premise that Scotland on its own is too small and poor to sustain its banking sector. This thread highlights the hypocrisy of those who claim unionists never use the "too poor, too small, too stupid" arguments. |
but thats true, an independent scotlland would not have had the finances to bail out the banks in scotland that the uk govt. did. that does not make us stupid, wee or poor. it's just a fact of life. |
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Holebender
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OK... if it's not because of being too poor or too small, why do you believe Scotland could not have baled out the banks?
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landg
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| Holebender wrote: | | OK... if it's not because of being too poor or too small, why do you believe Scotland could not have baled out the banks? |
bailing out the the royal bank of scotland ALONE cost 20 billion, figures released only 2 days ago has the scottish budget at 34 billion.
i'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.
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The UK government is broke, I'm sure you can figure that out for yourself.
What great point can you truly make concerning Scotland when we haven't got control over our own banking system.
The Uk government had control and they are to blame.
This false comparison is ridiculous.
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| landg wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | OK... if it's not because of being too poor or too small, why do you believe Scotland could not have baled out the banks? |
bailing out the the royal bank of scotland ALONE cost 20 billion, figures released only 2 days ago has the scottish budget at 34 billion.
i'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.
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Oh... I get it! You think Scotland doesn't have the resources to come up with that kind of money, is that what you're saying?
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landg
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| Stevie wrote: | The UK government is broke, I'm sure you can figure that out for yourself.
What great point can you truly make concerning Scotland when we haven't got control over our own banking system.
The Uk government had control and they are to blame.
This false comparison is ridiculous. |
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Ultra
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | Shagpile wrote: | | Ultra lives and works in England |
I think you'll find Ultra is a Labour Party cooncillor in Glasgow who went straight from being a student politician at university to being a full time would-be politician with hopes that, by slavishly toeing the party line enough, fortune, or at least the corrupt Labour bosses, will smile and provide further excuse for never getting a real job. Ultra feels threatened by talk of independence because this might upset these cosy plans. What's more, she's a he. Sort of. |
Is thais another one of your deluded conspiracy theories Dave 'Fundamentalist figure of Fun' or can anyone join in?
Prove I am a Glasgow councillor Dave. Why don't you post up some evidence?
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Ultra
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| Holebender wrote: | | Ultra wrote: | | Holebender wrote: | | Who do you think knows more about the Scottish oil industry, a Scot with no connection to the business or a person who works full time in oil & gas? |
Who says I do not have a connection to the business? |
Why personalise everything? I didn't say a word about you or your knowledge or connections. Look again at the question. It is general, and you didn't answer it. |
Who were you commenting on at the time Holebender?
Who have you continued to comment on Holebender?
Is this another one of these smoke screens and defelction tactics because you have not answered the question on why you work in another countries oil industry and not the Scottish oil industry?
Also, you cannot answer why with all these new technologies you claim production is still following?
Please answer these questions beofte you try out silly diversion tactics. |
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Holebender
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You were the one who tried to say that I worked abroad and therefore knew nothing about Scotland's oil industry. I posed the question above and you took it as somehow relating to you. The fact is it related to me but, with your great reading skills you managed to interpret it as somehow relating to you. Feel better now?
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Holebender
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Tell me something, Ultra. Have you ever accused supporters of independence of parochialism? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Ultra
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Holebender wrote: | | You were the one who tried to say that I worked abroad and therefore knew nothing about Scotland's oil industry. I posed the question above and you took it as somehow relating to you. The fact is it related to me but, with your great reading skills you managed to interpret it as somehow relating to you. Feel better now? |
Why don't you answer the questions I put instead of more smokescreens and defelction? |
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Holebender
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You seem incapable of recognising what I write about, so I thought I'd better spell it out for you.
Most of your questions are irrelevant and personal. As long as you continue to personalise everything you are going to find yourself rather short of answers. It's none of your business.
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