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parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

18th of march 2006

10.30am Huntingtower road

bailleston

all welcome

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Leathlaobhair · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:00 am Post subject:

I'm not sure why but the Washington D.C. saint patrick's day parade is tomorrow... not sure if I'll be going. Not a big fan of the OAH
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Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject:

Id much rather celebrate St Andrews day,im not Irish im Scottish so i wont be there,St Patricks day means nothing to me but if you are Irish(as in born in Ireland)have a good yin!
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Rinty · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: h

Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject:

Well im from Coatbridge where they celebrate St Patricks day but dont celebrate St Andrews day and i have to admit it annoys me.The place is full of people who think their Irish because they drink guiness and know the soldiers song.I was also at the Scotland v rep of Ireland game when the Irish fans sung"wheres your famous Hampden roar" in a Scottish accent.Ive a lot of Irish friends who were amazed when they came over here and seen half the numptys in their Ireland tops and talking to them about the "old country".Leave St Patricks day to the Irish and let us concentrate more on St Andrews day,oh and dont think im a Gers fans because of these views im not and i love guiness but i wont be celebrating St Patricks day.
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parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

numptys because they wear ireland tops? people are freee to choose what countries they have an affinity to, if people celebrating any they have with ireland offends you i suggest that says more about you than them.

i am scottish but i am also aware my families irish background, if you want to celebrate st andrews day do it, i dont see why you demands everyone else joins you.
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Rinty · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: J

jack, if you changed the irish references in your post to pakistani ones you would be attacked. It seems the Irish and those of Irish descent are the only ones who should keep their culture underwraps are go home to where they cane from. And here I've been told that the anti-Irish racism in Scotland ended at WW2.

I assume that you think the scots canadians should hide their st andrews flags and that Chinese New Year should hide their dragons unless they also celebrate St Andrews day.

Should people who are not Christian celebrate a christian saints day just to be allowed to celebrate their own history and heritage? Or is just the time you want to dictate to?

Keep your petty racism jack, I dont celebrate any religious days but Im never offended by those who do.

SLG · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject:

I've been thinking about this. I think it's far too simplistic to put this down to petty racism, Rinty. I think it is more to do with misunderstanding and confusion.

Aye, if folk want to celebrate St Paddy's day, fair enough. If someone is interested in celebrating the day of a Christian saint, they might want to celbrate the day of St Patrick as they have some Irish heratige. But given that ther are Scottish, why would they not also also want to celebrate the day of St Andrew, the patron saint of their country?

Aventinian · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: h

SLG · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: h

Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

Out of all the people ive met who celebrate St Patricks day very few of them can actually name their Irish relatives,ive no problem with people celebrating their heritage but it seems to me that its a case of if they support Celtic then they have Irish heritage so they support Ireland.Would they do the same if they had English heritage?Would they celebrate St Georges day? I just hate the way we seem to celebrate other countries rather than our own.If you want to celebrate St Patricks day,have a good yin but it means nothing to me.Ive Canadian blood in me but i dont want to celebrate anything Canadian as im Scottish and thats that! i dont want to offend anyone as i have loads of good Irish friends but this is my opinion.
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Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:

Oh and rinty im not racist,as soon as you say boo to someone nowadays your either racist or sexcist!
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Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject:

Weel ma mithers Irish,im no im Scottish but i celebrate baith ae them..St.Patricks and St. Andrews...best ae baith worlds eh? Wink

I will be celebrating St.Patricks day in the time honoured tradition ae a couple ae pints ae guinness in Bairds Bar and then in next door tae the Barralands tae see Stiff Little Fingers.

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Tartan Jack · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

Ive got to admit Stiff Little Fingers are quality!
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Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:

parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

SLG · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject:

Has the West of Scotland Band Alliance ever thought about organising a celebration for Scotland's patron saint?

parkhead_rfb · Getting on a bit! Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1974

no we are an irish republican organisation in the west of scotland, that is our primarmy concern. if another organisation was to organise one and invite us then i am sure we would consider it, but it is unlikely we would be invited. wosba bands have attended the john mclean commemoration organised by the scottish republican socialist movement.
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RFM · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:20 am Post subject:

To SLG;
The Catholic Encyclopedia (not an entirely unimpeachable source) puts St. Patrick's birth place as at near Dumbarton in 387. Supposedly born of a father with a roman name who was also supposedly a minor roman official.
Anyway this upperclass kid was supposedly was kidnapped by Irish "marauders" (as if there are any other kind) at the age of 18, saw the light and became a churchman. Like all of the history of that time and place, very sketchy.
RFM

Wolf of Badenoch · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:49 am Post subject:

Aye very interesting that RFM, i think i hae read somethin` similar afore.
Yer richt aboot sketchy details though and it gits even sketchier when ye`ve got Aventinian callin` him british. Confused

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