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Blackleaf Confirmed TROLL

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 882 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Only 13% of Brits want a Republic. |
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The Queen is Britain's favourite Royal. 57% believe that she should reign until the end of her life. Of the 1500 British people surveyed, only 13% want Britain to become a republic.
Queen still top of the pops
By PETE BELL
Sun Online
THE QUEEN received an early birthday present today when a poll named her Britain's favourite Royal.
Her Majesty, who celebrates her eightieth birthday on Friday will also be pleased to learn more than half the public want her to reign for the rest of her life.
About 57 per cent of those asked believed the Queen should be on the throne until she dies, while 16 per cent thought she should retire to make way for her grandson, Prince William (who would become King William V).
Only 12 per cent called for the Queen to step down in favour of the Prince of Wales.
Of the 1,500 questioned in the ITV News survey, 13 per cent were opposed to having a successor and want the country to become a republic.
The Duchess of Cornwall came bottom in a list of most popular royals with one per cent of the votes.
William was second with 21 per cent and the Princess Royal third with 11 per cent.
Charles and Prince Harry came joint fourth with 4 per cent each.
More than half felt Camilla should definitely not become Queen when Charles becomes King, while 29 per cent believed she should.
thesun.co.uk
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 5515 Location: Dùn Eideann
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the results I've found from a MORI poll in 1999 for the Sunday Herald.
| Quote: | If Scotland were to become Independent, which of the following would you prefer as head of state?
The Queen, as at present 38
An elected president in a republic 39
A scaled down monarchy, as they have in Scandinavia 16
None of these 2
Don't know 5 |
http://www.mori.com/polls/1999/sh990409.shtml |
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Celyn No Longer a Wean
Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oh decision, decisions. Which to believe? The "Sun" or the "Sunday Herald". Gosh, I just can't decide.  |
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Aventinian 'Our Scotland' Fossil

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 4419 Location: Broadcasting From An Anonymous Location Within the United Kingdom.
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Well actually it would appear the Sun's poll was a MORI one too - so they do have equal weight. Not to mention the Herald's one used a sample of 1,000 people as opposed to the Sun's 1,500.
I'm not actually sure what the Scandanavian royal situation is or how exactly they would plan to scale down an operation that already provides the treasury with over £100 million of revenue a year, after the deduction of anything the Queen receives from the state. Politically I believe the monarchy has been scaled back too much and that the Queen ought to have some direct say in the operation of the Royal Prerogative.
So as a result of that, I'd have had to say 'none of these' in the Herald's poll. _________________ The resident pantomime villain.
'Socialists cry "Power to the people", and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean—power over people, power to the State.' |
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Aventinian 'Our Scotland' Fossil

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 4419 Location: Broadcasting From An Anonymous Location Within the United Kingdom.
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| SLG wrote: | | Here's the results I've found from a MORI poll in 1999 for the Sunday Herald. |
I rather like that. 8% of people's most significant thoughts when it comes to voting is that a party favours Scottish sovereignty... while 7% are quite the opposite. You'll note that, from 1999, the Scottish Parliament voting results didn't quite pan out like that. The SNP are down as getting 34% there, when in reality they got under 25% if I recall.
Not to mention the fact that you've choosen a poll from the time the support for the monarchy was at its lowest, ie when Diana was still fresh in people's minds. |
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SLG Born Again..........and still Scottish!

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 5515 Location: Dùn Eideann
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Aventinian wrote: | | Well actually it would appear the Sun's poll was a MORI one too - so they do have equal weight. Not to mention the Herald's one used a sample of 1,000 people as opposed to the Sun's 1,500. |
Both MORI polls, but in case it wasn't clear, the polls involved two different populations. The Scottish poll would actually be massively the more accurate, asking 1000 out of 5 million population (0.0002%) compared with the UK poll of 1500 out of ~56 million (0.000027%). They were also asking two different questions. The Sunday Herald poll was asking about the situation post Independence. Folk might answer differently if the question related to the present position where we remain part of the UK.
| Aventinian wrote: | | So as a result of that, I'd have had to say 'none of these' in the Herald's poll. |
Your position of strengthening the position of the Monarch would appear to be in such a minority that it doesn't get it's own category. It does dilute the accuracy as folk try to place their opinion into one of the available categories though.
| Aventinian wrote: | | I rather like that. 8% of people's most significant thoughts when it comes to voting is that a party favours Scottish sovereignty... while 7% are quite the opposite. |
I like it as well. It backs up those in the Independence movement who claim that folk won't vote SNP just because of Independence. This destroys the argument that if folk wanted to be Independent, then they would just vote SNP and backs up calls for a single issue referendum that allows people to make a choice without the competition of other higher priorities. Only 15% of the population cast there vote with Independence or Union as their priority. Lets let the other 85% have a chance to do so as well!
| Aventinian wrote: | | You'll note that, from 1999, the Scottish Parliament voting results didn't quite pan out like that. The SNP are down as getting 34% there, when in reality they got under 25% if I recall. |
In 1999, the SNP got 28.74% in the first vote and 27.26% in the second. I agree, still well of the mark though.
| Aventinian wrote: | | Not to mention the fact that you've chosen a poll from the time the support for the monarchy was at its lowest, ie when Diana was still fresh in people's minds. |
That may have influenced the result. I chose the poll because it was the first one that came up in google when I searched for one. If I have the time I'll maybe look for some others. |
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Blackleaf Confirmed TROLL

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 882 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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According to the OECD, Monarchies are generally wealthier than their Republican counterparts, are more stable, and there is more chance of a military coup happening in a Republic than in a Monarchy.
Also, of the 10 most democratic nations in the world, 8 of them are Constitutional Monarchies and 4 of those have Queen Elizabeth II as Head of State. _________________ [img]http://home.att.net/~chuckayoub/black_sabbath/black-sabbath-1970.jpg
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Blackleaf Confirmed TROLL

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 882 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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And, according to Time magazine, only 19% of Brits want a Monarchy -
| Quote: | | She has become a matriarch in autumn, presiding over "a family happy once again, the more credible for the traumas they have been through." Her country is prosperous and generally content with her performance. According to a 113-page Ipsos MORI poll commissioned by Buckingham Palace in January and seen by TIME, only 19% would like to switch to a republic — one more percentage point than in 1969. "This is the most stable measure in British polling," says Robert Worcester, who presented the poll to palace staff. No matter how you break down the respondents — young, old, ethnic minorities, Londoners, non-Christians, local opinion leaders, readers of the Sun tabloid, readers of the "quality" dailies — no more than 25% of any group wants to dump the royals. [/b]Even after a decade of tumult for the Windsors, 68% of Britons want to retain them. "That's astonishing," says Sunder Katwala, head of the Fabian Society, a think tank affiliated with the Labour Party. "It represents an absolute failure for British republicanism |
For the rest of the article, which is long, visit Time.com _________________ [img]http://home.att.net/~chuckayoub/black_sabbath/black-sabbath-1970.jpg
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Firefox Gaining a Reputation........

Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 213 Location: In a cult
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing that does concern me is that there doesn't seem to be an individual breakdown of Scotland.
Our politics are subtly different (e.g. the "opposition" being the SNP in Scotland while it's the Tories in England). From my experience the majority of SNP members tend to be republics, ALL of the SSP and left wing in Scotland have a propensity towards republicanism and Tories are rarer than sabre-tooth haggis.
There was a "TV Poll" (which are invariably scientifically invalid) which had a big "how relevant is the monarchy" debate what had Republicanism relatively high in Scotland. The subsequent TV Phone Poll showed majority support for the Monarchy from everywhere except Scotland. The only interesting thing was that it showed a difference between Scotland and the rest of the UK.
I find it hard to believe a Poll for Scotland only would be exactly the same. I'm not suggesting it will be a majority, but I think it would be closer up here. _________________ "Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you." Bill Hicks |
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