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SLG · Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject:

The establishment media will never adopt a pro-independence stance while Unionist are still in control of the country. The SNP is trying to overcome this to an extent by attempting to become more 'establishment' much to the criticism of certain sections within the party.

Having a devolved parliament has helped - the SNP (and to an extent the other Scottish parties) can now guarantee representation and the associated staff etc for the medium to long term. PR in local government will break the automatic link (in large swathes of the country) that you must be in the Labour party if you want to have any influence in local politics. This will be a huge change and filter down right through the system.

The point is that the party cannot win an election on its own, they need to woo the business figures, the union leaders, the journalists etc. At the moment a large proportion of the these influential members of society have come from a background in the Labour or Tory parties. It is changing slowly. The SNP also need to persuade the bright politics students (future career politicians) that there is a career to be had in the SNP and not to automatically select one of the big three English parties (especially Labour here).

At the other end of the scale, we should be writing to the editors of the national newspaper, the BBC and STV to make sure they know that they are not reflecting the opinion of their readers and viewers. We should be supporting the local newspapers that do not take an anti-independence stance. We should be supporting the independent media and forums (such as our-scotland). We should write to those particularly anti-Scottish businesses of which we are customers and clients telling them that we will move our business unless they reconsider their approach. We should write to our Unionist party MPs and MSPs where we have them to ensure that even if they are not pro-independence themselves, many of their constituents are, and they are obliged to represent us as well. This and much more...

the bard of keppoch · Nationalist Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 113

there need's to be a change of mindset of the scottish people,and im sorry to have to admit that the appetite just is'nt there amongst your average scot,the brain washing by the goverment tentacles in my short lifetime is everywhere,tv,radio,and particular that dreaded red top who everone seems to buy from there local newsagents....so people ? what do we do to counter the constant propoganda churned out at the behest of the goverment
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Aventinian · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:53 am Post subject:

SLG · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am Post subject:

In case WC is not going to answer these himself.

Aventinian · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject:

SLG · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

Blackadder · Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:

Babygael · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:58 am Post subject:

There you go again Av with all that anti-Scottish rhetoric! Lucky for you that you were born in a tolerant society!

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Blackadder · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:25 am Post subject:

Babyshambles ... you're all lucky we live in a tolerant society ... all that rhetoric in the posts ... nearly put me to sleep there! *yawns*

Terse ... that's what we want ... terse and to the point ... all that other hot air can be used to power the National Grid. People want bytes these days, dontcha know.

As for the antis ... of course they have a place ... how else would you know you are right??

Tolerance ... that's what we aristos have for you lower orders. Tolerance, patience and the kind of love you lavish on a dog. Not a favourite one of course ... but I think the point is made.
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Aventinian · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject:

Babygael · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject:

Well Hi there Av! I see you're alive and well!

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Aventinian · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject:

Yep. Getting out of the country tomorrow though. So you'll be free of me for over a week.

Oh and don't anything daft while I'm away. I don't want to come back to find Scotland as a big, smouldering heap of debris.
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Niall · Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:

Cheshire Exile · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 8

I read with interest the comments on this blog. I am an Anglo Scot, born of an Aberdonian father and an English mother (although also of Scottish desent). You would think that ethnically I am a true Brit, with a vested interest in the UK with family residing in both Scotland and England. This could be further from the truth. I would classify myself as one of the diaspora, who has an in built feeling of their true nationality/ethnicity for want of a better word. Scotland remains dear to us and remains the draw of a true homeland, even if we are absent. Many in my situation hold this view.

Scotland a proud and free nation again as it once was, is something I hold closest to my heart. Rose tinted specs it isn't as we all know that Scottish society is flawed (sectarianism etc..) but which country's society isn't? Simple independent self determination has got to be the ultimate status for a nation to have. My voice I know is one of many across the Diaspora the globe over that speak so (Tartan Day is just one manifestation of this), I am a proud Scot, an Anglo-Scot (Britishness means nothing to me). My only selfish desire would be to be able to apply for Scottish citizenship in recognition of my close ties to the country.

I hope those of you who have the power to make the change in the country I regard as my spiritual homeland make the right choice economic argument has been made but ultimately it should be about being true to your roots and your nation not to a false Treaty drawn up by unelected autocrats three hundred years ago.

Agus Alba Gu Brath.

Pragmatic Pict · No Longer a Wean Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 60

Gordon Brown shows us that lowland traitors to the cause are alive and well and getting the best jobs.
Fair play to him for the some devolution but I quickly realised this was a ploy to shut the indigenous celts up with token powers to let them get back to social engineering and continuing destruction of regional identities. (including mass migration and propogandra taught to me at school)

FALSYDE · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

Can I do a hopeful quicky on the tax thing in support of Nail.

Tax is raised to cover expenditure of government, agreed! Call it wasted, well spent whatever that is the basic tenet for tax raising/gathering.

At the risk of upsetting those who feel unhappy with the Scotland PLC metaphor, any business HAS TO function within its revenues, if not it is bust. Therefor the question of what is spent, how much and when is critical. I have access to an interactive treasury programme based on GB's own statistics, this is altered every time there is a budget. NOW, if you take Alba's pop as being in the ration of 1:10, [I know its 1:11+] but lets not get accused of gilding the lily. I then stripped out on that basis, 10% of the military budget and the figures are spectacular, in our favour. Honestly.

And just to make you sit up and pay attention, how do you feel about an individual Scottish State Pension of £165 / week. Without means testing! We in the SEP didn't do this research, GB paid for it and binned it, it then got passed on to me and I sent it out to others seeing as how I could be classed as an economic illiterate to some degree anyway. This report passed with flying colours, details to follow on our website near to election, its dynamite and no we ain't sharing it with those who already receive government funds to do their research but sit on the collective arses.

What ever concerns or apprehension anybody has on the concept of resumption by Scotland of her full sovereignty, being able to afford it is not one of them, oil/gas not withstanding.
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mairead · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: The Big Lie.

The biggest mistake we Scots could make is not to go all out for our independence.
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scottishjameseboy · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:16 am Post subject:

As a kid and as long as I can remember I have been a proud scot thru and thru and always said Scotland must be free to flourish. I am a nationalist and proud so are my parents. (this is how I FEEL not because of parents although playing nationalist and rebel songs may have influenced me in my early days) We must free Scotland and let her lion, now "lying like dead," stand rampant once again.

"How am I a traitor when england is foreign to me" (The Wallace, J Mclean)

Theresa · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:

Hi, Scottishjames boy -- a warm welcome to the Forum!

You'll fit in nicely here and have a grand time. Glad to have you with us. I'm fairly new to the board, but as you've probably seen, many of the founding members are people of very fine minds and sharp thinking.

I like your "signature" line . . . Wink

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