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sandmountainslim · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: Petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/badabe/petition.html

To: u.s. congress

On December 26, 1862, president Abraham Lincoln – long thought to be “honest Abe” and a “hero” to most Americans – ordered the largest mass hanging in world history (see “Guinness Book of World Records”) in which 38 innocent Santee Dakota Sioux men at Mankato, Minnesota, were immorally hung from wooden gallows on that ungodly winter’s day.

The Santee Dakota “Sioux” had been forced to agree with the u.s. government’s terms of living on a “reservation” and not hunting off the reservation in their old traditional hunting grounds. The Santee were illegally forced to “relinquish” millions of acres of prime real estate (such as the site of the current “Mall of America”) at the end of the white man’s guns - so long as basic needs were met on the reservation through agreements with the congress and the president.

The Santee maintained their honoring of this forced agreement until a corrupt American agent denounced his duty to distribute obligations by refusing the Santee Dakota their “rations”. The agent was selling the Indian’s food to his own white friends. He told the starving Indians that ‘as far as he was concerned “they could eat grass.”’

So the Santee men began hunting deer for their people’s immediate survival needs – and were then immediately and unjustly declared by the government and press as “hostiles.” The term was used in similarity to how the current buzzword “terrorists” is manipulated by today’s government and press to frighten Americans and force them into making wrong decisions, which benefit only a few government officials. The innocent Santee people were all ruthlessly hunted down by a crazed u.s. military and Minnesota citizenry.

The Indians who remained in the vicinity were all rounded up and held as “detainees”. Rapes and torture were implemented with blessings from the god-fearing president and secretary of war (now called secretary of “defense”). The starved Indians were ignored while great emphasis was placed upon the few dead Americans who had become so while shooting indiscriminately at any Indians they could find hunting.

The government and media called it a battle, an “uprising” blamed on the “savages”. Yet the Santee’s only crime was hunting the deer their ancestors had hunted for millions of years upon open lands, free to all; a land without fences and barriers, or control of the freedom of the individual.

Abe Lincoln ordered the hanging of the men – all without trial – that cold day after xmas, in the year of the Jewish lord Jesus, 1,862 years after he was hanged (with trial). It was said that 38 were hung because “there wasn’t enough rope to hang a hundred.”

For this reason, it is expected that Lincoln be removed from his position as “hero” and relegated to a more appropriate position, to somewhere near the status of “columbus” and “hitler.” We demand that Abe Lincoln's dishonest and shameful face be removed from the "occupied" (see www.1851treaty.com) and desecrated area called “Mount Rushmore” immediately. Abe Lincoln - “honest” and “hero” no more.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

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RFM · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:51 am Post subject:

Actually Sandmountian, your outrage is admirable but your focus is a little too tight. It seems that human beings heads are hardwired so to speak in a certain way. Whatever they do not understand or regard as different, they want to kill. For example it was always regarded as great fun to kill an Indian in 18th and 19th century America for no other reason other than he was there. Consider the passenger pigeon, the most plentiful game bird in America before the 19th century, whose flights consisited of millions of birds and took hours to pass over cities. People lined up and shot them, because they were very pretty and because they were there. In less than 20 years completely wiped out to extinction. Consider the buffalo which roamed the plains in enormous herds numbering in the millions. People used to take special train rides through buffalo country so they could shoot them and leave them to rot where they fell.Was President Lincoln unusual in that regard? Consider Nixon's attitude to Cuba, Eisenhower's to Viet Nam, Bush's to Iraq. Have things really changed?

Rinty · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: h

Possibly RFM but we wont see "hero" statues of Nixon and Bush

RFM · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject:

In 150 years from now, who can say? Lincoln was, lest you forget extremely unpopular in his own time. When they brought his body out of Washington, it had to go through Maryland. They transported it in the dead of the night because they were afraid crowds might stop the train and desecrate the body.

sandmountainslim · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:21 am Post subject:

Rinty · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: f

IF Convenor · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

I don't plan on being around to petition anyone in 150 years from now.
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RFM · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

Right you are Rinty!
Look at Gerald Ford, the man Nixon cut a deal with: Nixon resigned and Ford became the president whose first act in office was to pardon Nixon for all crimes committed against the United States. And they were in fact quite a few. Now today we are told that rather than allow the legal system to hold Nixon accountable for his crimes, Ford "healed the nation". Al Capone should have had such healers. Or Ronald Reagan, who narrowly escaped being impeached and indicted himself. Today we have streets and federal buildings named after him. Makes you wonder if the whole world has gone crazy!

IF Convenor · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

You're only wondering?
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sandmountainslim · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:22 am Post subject:

Bush is either an enemy of freedom or their pawn.
As I type this he has legislation on his desk granting Social Security benefits for foreign nationals be they legal or otherwise after they have worked in America for 18 months.
An American citizen must work 10 years for eligibility.
He is a jackass among jackasses and a madman.
Only when the nation returns to Jeffersonian ideals will things begin to change.
WP
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http://jeffersonrepublican.blogspot.com/

RFM · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:19 am Post subject:

I hate to tell you this Sandman, but for the past twenty years all of the people who immigrated to America from Russia as refugees were automatically entitled to social security, medicare and section 8 subsidzed housing immediately upon arrival. And these were people who never worked a day in America or contributed one thin dime to the system. We were fighting communism, didn't you know? Many of them are still drawing benefits to this day, and Oh Yes, the social security system is going broke! Where have you been living, on the dark side of the moon?

sandmountainslim · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:27 am Post subject:

RFM · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject:

Your mistake, if I may say so, is that you are willing to allow government to assume its own status over your life. That is called relinquishing responsibility. Consider the number of people still locked up at Guantanamo; no trials, no charges, nothing except the direction of one man. They will probably remain there for the rest of their lives simply because people are too Goddamn busy with their own petty concerns to accept the idea they could be next. Government either serves and works for the citizen or it serves and works for its own interests, and those interests are holding on to power and priviledge. Since we the citizens have allowed this state of affairs, it is also our responsibility to do something about it. My complaint about the Republican party is that they have successfully managed to hoodwink the American people with their bull***t about being a nation under attack and at war to allow this state of affairs to come to pass. It is although Americans are retarded geese who follow along without looking ahead to see where this is all going. At least the Europeans have seen this before in their own countries, but as long as people in America can be diverted with propaganda about military heroism, violence and bullying as the way to get things done (the Republican Party platform) one day you and I will awake to find out we don't have any freedoms and people like George W. Bush will tell you what you can do, where your can live, and what you can think. You don't need to worry about what happened 160 years ago in America, look around you today.