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Joe Middleton · No Longer a Wean Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 80

Ha ha ha, no of course not, though it would be an interesting thought.

I was amused to read about the Scottish Conservative Party supporting a referendum 'to shoot the nationalist fox' however I suspect the real reason some Tories want a referendum is because they instinctively realise that Scotland would be a lot better off with independence! (They are not alone btw a large number of Labour and Lib Dem voters also support independence).

Old stick in the mud Annabel Goldie has already slapped down this enterprising suggestion however it is good to see support for a referendum from any quarter (Both the Scotland on Sunday and Evening News are supporting the Tories short lived argument) even if it is for the wrong reasons.

Ultimately the Scottish people will demand a vote on independence and when they do anyone who opposes that logical democratic demand will be annihilated at the Ballot box. The Tories were on the wrong side of the devolution debate, no doubt most will be on the wrong side of this one as well but at least some of them are thinking that the Scottish people deserve a vote on independence.

A pity the 'party of home rule' (the 'Scottish' Liberal Democrats) have completely turned their back on the aspirations of the Scottish people, I can guess how their poll ratings are going to go, f-l-u-s-h! and it will be richly deserved.

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SLG · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:

I think the door is still open for the Lib Dems. Certain members of their leadership are much more antagonistic towards independence, a referendum or any relationship with the SNP, than others. That can change very quickly. E.g. a bad day at the UK elections in 2009 could see a radical shake up.

dm1983 · Finding Ma' Way Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 5

I think the Tories may well secretly support Independence as they see that as the only way back for their party in Scotland.

I am sure a pro-Scottish right of centre party would do quite well and would certainly be a more attractive prospect to the electorate than the current pro-British anti-Scottish Tories.

Add in the fact that the removal of the Scottish (and possibly even welsh) MP's at Westminister would pretty much allow the Tories a free run at Governing England.

SLG · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:

What would really kick it off is if one of the sitting MSPs would leave the party and either set up a new one or join the SEP. A base like that would really give the pro-indy tories something to build from. Can't see that happening though.

macnumpty · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

Not unless they're in danger of being de-selected, anyway.
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SLG · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:

I would think it would really need to be one of the members who could win fptp as well and there aren't many of them for a start.