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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3771

Let's face it folks. The media in Scotland are anti-Independence - the only paper I can think of that gives a balanced view is The Herald.

I hate this 'holier than thou' stance that other parties are given in the media.

Here are some comments from other parties' representatives;

"It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."

- Labour MP John McDonnell (Still a Labour MP)

"I do understand why people out there become suicide bombers. It is out of desperation. I dare say if I was in their situation with my children and my grandchildren and I saw no hope for the future at all - which I'm not, of course, but if I did - I might just think about it myself."

- LibDem MP Jenny Tonge (Now a LibDem Peer)

"An Englishman, a Cuban, a Japanese man and a Pakistani were all on a train. The Cuban threw a fine Havana cigar out the window. When he was asked why he replied: 'They are 10 a penny in my country'. The Japanese man then threw a Nikon camera out of the carriage, adding: 'These are 10 a penny in my country'. The Englishman then picked up the Pakistani and threw him out of the train window. When all the other travellers asked him to account for his actions, he said: 'They are 10 a penny in my country'."

- Tory MP Ann Winterton (Still a Tory MP)

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Gung-ho · Nationalist Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 103

When we look at the Question we should look at the example of Labour and the Liberals denying the rights of all Scots to celebrate St Andrews Day with a national holiday and then a matter of weeks later Gordon Brown suggests a GB Day.

It seems Labour needs to bolster the sense of being British at the expense of pride in our own Scottish roots.
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Aventinian · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:05 am Post subject:

What 'right' is this? I can't seem to find it in the Human Rights Act or the UN Declaration... in fact, has it ever been historically a 'national holiday' (no such term exists in the UK, I believe) - no.
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Rinty · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: g

St Andrews day has no significance to me. I dont recognise saints, superstitions or the cults who worship them. They are free to go ahead and celebrate any way they want, but I would hope that any "national holiday" that does emerge would be one for all scots and not one based in christian beliefs.

thetimeisnow · No Longer a Wean Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 91

The Union Jack is a symbol of the British Empire - it stands for mass robbery on a global scale. It stands for very little that is good and the Brits are struggling to promote it because of this. It is a source of suffering based upon wars, destruction and unfairness thoughout the world. India, Falklands, Afghanistan, Iraq.

The Saltire stands for Scotland - a great Country of innovation, social justice, tolerance and resource - with Scotland's number 1 resource being its people.

Rinty · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: g

SLG · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject:

The whole debate about flags has gotten a bit out of hand IMO. The flag is nothing but a symbol of the state. What is offensive is some of the actions of the state, not the flag itself. Yes the flag contains the Saltire - but it was a new flag, just as Britain contains Scotland and Scots were culpable for some of the crimes of carried out by Britain, but they were done in the name of Britain (and sometimes England). The Saltire will only be a flag of a state once Scotland is independent, therefore I (and I presume others) view it as aspirational and hope that Scotland under the Saltire will act in a different manner to that of Britain.

Shuggy

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Aventinian · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:07 am Post subject:

SLG

I have never denied that there are some anti-English people in the SNP. It would probably make them unique as a major political party if they didn't have individuals with 'racist' views. I felt Pip Pip had used your comments to make implications regarding the party itself. Shuggy, can you give me a link to some reference to this call for 'direct action' at SNP conference, I'm not familiar with the event and would like to be able to find out a bit more about it.

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mal · No Longer a Wean Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 94

Few people actually celebrate St Andrews Day or have a clue when it is. There's no symbolism to change - just something constructed, which might as well be around another day.[/quote]

This must be the reason for the petition signed by leading academics complaining about the lack of teaching of Scottish History in Scottish schools Rolling Eyes

the North-Brits plan is working Crying or Very sad

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