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Cymro
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: Six Nations |
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Well it's that time of year again. The time of year when I willfully go into Liver Abuse mode. Anyone else looking forward to this seasons tournament?
After Scotlands far imporved performance last year and in the World Cup must be a fair bit more confident this season of maybe challenging Wales and Ireland for 3rd place?
Difficult one for Wales to judge. New coaching staff so don't know how we'll get one really. Also a fair few new faces in the squad. If we're not pushing for at least 3rd place I'll be dissapointed though.
Anyone going to a game? I'm supposed to be meating up with 30 supporters from Oban and Taynuilt. So thats 30 Scots and 1 Welshman. Should be fun!
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Cymro
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Saturday, 02 February 2008
England v Wales, 16:30
Ireland v Italy, 14:00
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Sunday, 03 February 2008
Scotland v France, 15:00
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Saturday, 09 February 2008
France v Ireland, 16:00
Wales v Scotland, 14:00
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Sunday, 10 February 2008
Italy v England, 14:30
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Saturday, 23 February 2008
France v England, 20:00
Ireland v Scotland, 17:00
Wales v Italy, 15:00
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Saturday, 08 March 2008
Ireland v Wales, 13:15
Scotland v England, 15:15
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Sunday, 09 March 2008
France v Italy, 15:00
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Saturday, 15 March 2008
England v Ireland, 15:00
Italy v Scotland, 13:00
Wales v France, 17:00 |
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Clatch
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You are incorrect Cymro. It is the Ospreys who are playing England on Saturday.  |
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Cymro
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Ha ha ha, yes it's certainly been a bit of a shock that. 13 players from the Ospreys in the starting lineup. I suspect that this will change fairly soon into the game - Gethin Jenkins and Tom Shanklin taking their places on the pitch.
Hey, at least the 13 players from the same team will know eachothers style of play! |
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kevin04
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Great win for the welsh yesterday Cymro  well done, hope you guys win the tournament this year! As for us, another shocker it sounds at murrayfield - just not good enough, Dan Parks is having a shocking game as well. |
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Cymro
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I'm so hungover you would not believe! Was out at 12:00 yesterday with some friends. Four of us put £5 each on Wales to win - we won £80 between us, which would go in a small way to explaining the huge hangover I am not trying to get rid of!
Brilliant result for Wales. We where absolutly rubbish in the first half so I started to get distracted. But the 2nd half. WOW!
Scotland played well in the first half and looked a lot better when Patterson came on, shame it wasn't to be. Still not too confident of a Welsh win next week though. Scotland will have a lot to proove and nothing to loose next week, where as Wales clearly will have a lot to loose. I've got a work conference in Cardiff on Wednesday till Thursday so have planned on staying down till Sunday. Can't wait. Meeting up with 30 from Oban and Crianlarich Rugby Clubs. Should be interesting! |
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Blackleaf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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It wasn't a great win for the Welsh. It was a lucky win. For 55 minutes England completely DOMINATED Wales. They P'd all over Wales. It was like wathing an international team ranked third in the world (England) against a pub team (Wales). And with the giants in the England team - such as Vainikolo - and the comparative pygmies in the Welsh side, the Welsh tacklers were just bouncing of England's Juggernauts likes flies crashing into a car windscreen. And the Welsh kept on conceding too many turnovers and were useless when kicking off.
But two flukily-scored quickfire tries in the remaining quarter of the game somehow gave Wales an undeserved victory. AND England had a perfectly legal try disallowed just at the end of the first half, remember.
This Wales win was a one off, something that only happens once every few years. Wales were totally dominated but somehow scored to tries late on.
But it's fatal write off England when you consider what happened to during the World Cup.
And it's fatal to say "Oh, but England must play France in France!" But they played France in France when they beat them at the World Cup Semi Final.
A Daily Mail reporter, during the 2007 World Cup, once likened the England rugby team to the Germany football team - a relentless, giant, ruthless machine, that may not produce good enough results in friendly matches to make you believe they will win a tournament but, once at the tournament, somehow still manage to do well.
And if England keep playing in the rest of the matches like they did for two thirds of the match against Wales, then they'll be hard to beat for the rest of the tournament.
As for Wales? They'll probably not get many more wins. |
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azzuri
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Jesus, have you actually made 700+ posts on this forum Blackleaf?
I'd have said there is probably around 10 which are just repeated over, and over, and over again....
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No, give the guy credit, azzuri, this is the first time he's managed a post without pasting an article from a newspaper website.
Unless he's stopped referencing them!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Well done Cymru. |
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Cymro
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| Blackleaf wrote: | It wasn't a great win for the Welsh. It was a lucky win. For 55 minutes England completely DOMINATED Wales. They P'd all over Wales. It was like wathing an international team ranked third in the world (England) against a pub team (Wales). And with the giants in the England team - such as Vainikolo - and the comparative pygmies in the Welsh side, the Welsh tacklers were just bouncing of England's Juggernauts likes flies crashing into a car windscreen. And the Welsh kept on conceding too many turnovers and were useless when kicking off.
But two flukily-scored quickfire tries in the remaining quarter of the game somehow gave Wales an undeserved victory. AND England had a perfectly legal try disallowed just at the end of the first half, remember.
This Wales win was a one off, something that only happens once every few years. Wales were totally dominated but somehow scored to tries late on.
But it's fatal write off England when you consider what happened to during the World Cup.
And it's fatal to say "Oh, but England must play France in France!" But they played France in France when they beat them at the World Cup Semi Final.
A Daily Mail reporter, during the 2007 World Cup, once likened the England rugby team to the Germany football team - a relentless, giant, ruthless machine, that may not produce good enough results in friendly matches to make you believe they will win a tournament but, once at the tournament, somehow still manage to do well.
And if England keep playing in the rest of the matches like they did for two thirds of the match against Wales, then they'll be hard to beat for the rest of the tournament.
As for Wales? They'll probably not get many more wins. |
Oh Blackleaf the grapes must be sower in your neck of the woods.
A rugby match is 80minutes, not 55. The Toffs in England shirts knew that as much as the next person. Wales where indeed cack in the first half. No where to be seen. However England made stupid mistakes in the 2nd half, not something a 3rd placed country should do. Would the Ozzies, All B lacks or the Boks do that? Wales on the other hand woke up. Tactics which failed badly in the first half slotted into place. Remember this was Wales' first match under Warren Gatland and his coaching team.
The disallowed 'try' wasn't a try. What is it with you and trying to claim every disallowed try and a try. Remember the World Cup final? You claimed on this very site that is WAS a try, photographs clearly state it wasn't. Replays have showed it was a very good and actually easy decision by the coach. Even Brian 'England to win everything' Hall admitted straight away that he made the right decision. So what do you know that he doesn't then?
Accept it, England where cack in the 2nd Half, and Wales thankfully woke up and showed England and the rest of the countries taking part what Wales can achieve. It took some quality to work our way back from 19-6 to 26-19 in Twickers of everywhere.
I don't think Wales will win the Grand Slam or win the 6 Nations. I do think that at least 2 more games ar for the taking this year. Warren Gatland himself though has just said though that we need another 2 years before we can call ourselves " a good team".
Nothing worse than a bad looser Blackleaf, and you take the biscuit in that regards. |
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kevin04
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| Blackleaf wrote: | It wasn't a great win for the Welsh. It was a lucky win. For 55 minutes England completely DOMINATED Wales. They P'd all over Wales. It was like wathing an international team ranked third in the world (England) against a pub team (Wales). And with the giants in the England team - such as Vainikolo - and the comparative pygmies in the Welsh side, the Welsh tacklers were just bouncing of England's Juggernauts likes flies crashing into a car windscreen. And the Welsh kept on conceding too many turnovers and were useless when kicking off.
But two flukily-scored quickfire tries in the remaining quarter of the game somehow gave Wales an undeserved victory. AND England had a perfectly legal try disallowed just at the end of the first half, remember.
This Wales win was a one off, something that only happens once every few years. Wales were totally dominated but somehow scored to tries late on.
But it's fatal write off England when you consider what happened to during the World Cup.
And it's fatal to say "Oh, but England must play France in France!" But they played France in France when they beat them at the World Cup Semi Final.
A Daily Mail reporter, during the 2007 World Cup, once likened the England rugby team to the Germany football team - a relentless, giant, ruthless machine, that may not produce good enough results in friendly matches to make you believe they will win a tournament but, once at the tournament, somehow still manage to do well.
And if England keep playing in the rest of the matches like they did for two thirds of the match against Wales, then they'll be hard to beat for the rest of the tournament.
As for Wales? They'll probably not get many more wins. |
You can smell the sourness from here, 
No wonder everyone wants to beat you, outclassed - dominated! what game were you watching! Wales were very poor to start with but Gatland must have given them a good stirring at half-time, I heard another english lad on the radio saying "easy win, wales have only got celtic league players and we play in the best league in the world"
maybe one day you'll learn, |
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Cymro
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wales have announed their team to face Scotland. Three changes from the one that beat England. Quite glad he's done that. Last thing Wales needed was to keep the starting 15 and ignoring the fact we made some stupid mistakes in the first half.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7228261.stm |
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RadgeJougal
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| Still the best match of the weekend by far, Cymro. And not because England were involved! |
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Cymro
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The pubs are filling up here in Cardiff
I'm off for a pint! |
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Reluctant Hero
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Don't think it would have made much difference at the end of the day, but that was a severely dodgy last try.
Congrats to Wales though. Still on course for the title.
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Cymro
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The try was very very close. At the time I thought it was a try, then I wasn't sure. Will have to look again. The foot has to be on the line for it to be out. However if the foot is over the line technically but is in mid air then it's classed as still in. So if Shane Williams' body hadn't touched the ground before the ball was placed down then regardless of where he was in relation to the line then that counts as a try.
The game was a scrappy game and Scotland clearly knew how they where going to hold Wales back. To a huge part of the game it was working and I was really worried. Luckly some shrewd substitutions by Gatland ment Wales where able to completely change the style of play to beat Scotland. Shows what you can do with such good strength in depth.
Notice how Blackleaf is very quiet after his claims that the England try was a try and after his countries latest poor show in the 6 Nations. They where lucky! |
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Cymro
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Very very close decision. On this picture it looks like it was a try, even if it wasn't it took some skill to get himself into that position and some determination to get that ball down while in mid flight. |
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Reluctant Hero
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Aye that one looks a try What about the one that shows Williams' foot on the line before the ball is down?
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Cymro
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Reluctant Hero wrote: | | Aye that one looks a try What about the one that shows Williams' foot on the line before the ball is down? |
Can't find it, convenient eh!
The concensus now is that the TV Ref saw the run by Shane Williams and the determination to get a try and just descided that he should get the try regardless of feet on lines......thats the Italians for you!
You'd have still lost anyway!  |
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