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parkhead_rfb
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 Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: panorama programme on british army torture |
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anyone else see this last night?
brings a tear to the proud british eye how our brave boys are over there taking their lives in their hands by beating those cuffed and hooded men.
"and they dare to call me a terrorist"
new campaign, same old brits.
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iainmhor
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Their compatriots must be very proud of them. |
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Aventinian
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*Yawn*
The racism from the usual suspects is getting extraordinarily tiresome.
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parkhead_rfb
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Aventinian wrote: | *Yawn*
The racism from the usual suspects is getting extraordinarily tiresome. |
racism? thats a good one.
come on now aventanian you are very quick to condemn republicans. lets now hear your views on torture which the british government banned in the 1970's still being used in iraq today. lets also hear you comment on why panorama had to have a legal fight to even show the programme in the first place. surely the british army and government believe we should have a free press?
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Cymro
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Racism Aventinan? Stupidly ridicilous comment. Belittles true racism which does exist.
No excuse for torture, wherever it's used, who ever does the torturing and against who ever. The programme is exactly the kind of programme Panorama should be doing, not the drivel they've been showing in recent times. |
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Aventinian
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | lets now hear your views on torture which the british government banned in the 1970's still being used in iraq today. |
Absolutely contemptible, as I'd hope any decent person would believe.
| Cymro wrote: | | Racism Aventinan? Stupidly ridicilous comment. Belittles true racism which does exist. |
It is racism, nothing else. Whether it 'belittles' any other form of racism, I don't really care.
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Cymro
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Are Soliders a seperate race now then? Parkhead, likes to make out the British Army is the devil itself but that isn't racism by any stretch of the imagination. For a seemingly intelligent man to claim that what he says is racism is plainly ridicilous. Plenty of things you can properly argue with Parkie without needing to make things up Avent. |
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Aventinian
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| Cymro wrote: | | Are Soliders a seperate race now then? |
I am, of course, referring to Britons. Parkhead is quite happy to support certain soldiers of an Irish variant.
| Quote: | | Parkhead, likes to make out the British Army is the devil itself but that isn't racism by any stretch of the imagination. |
He argues it because of his own bigotry and prejudice. As I don't doubt he would do with anything noticeably British.
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Cymro
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| Aventinian wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | Are Soliders a seperate race now then? |
I am, of course, referring to Britons. Parkhead is quite happy to support certain soldiers of an Irish variant.
| Quote: | | Parkhead, likes to make out the British Army is the devil itself but that isn't racism by any stretch of the imagination. |
He argues it because of his own bigotry and prejudice. As I don't doubt he would do with anything noticeably British. |
Read his message again. He's talking about the British Army and making out that this is typical behaviour of the British Army. Thats it. Nothing more than that.
Personally I find torture wrong regardless of who's doing it, be in the British Army, the US Army or certain paramilitary organisations claiming to fight for Ireland. |
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Morph
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i agree this is not racism. I do think that parkhead has used this as a way to tar the full British army with the same brush, which i don agree with. However his point about torture is correct and i agreewith him,that doesnt make me or him a racist
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