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Shagpile
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Aventinian
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I wouldn't even bother blaming the Americans, this is just as much the fault of our own lot.
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Lewis
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Another blatant Lie.
The thing is, people will cry out on this, they'll recognise the lies when Labour decided to invade Iraq, they'll recongise a list of lies as long as the M6. So then why do people take the idea that Scotland can't fund itself as an independent nation as gospel truth? Even the Tories say we can!
I was a Labour supporter because I felt that they represented the workers, the people and the majority the best. From the way they mistreat us and lie to us, the way they make us seem like dirt, I see that they have gone back on their own values. That's why I now don't intend to support Labour anytime soon.
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Shagpile
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Will we ever be told the truth to these alligations?
http://the-osterley-times.blogspo...ent-is-being-dishonest-about.html
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.co...ghts-are-still-landing-in-the-uk/
http://republicart.net/disc/empire/anarchitektur01_en.htm
| Quote: | On Diego Garcia, a small island in the Indian Ocean under British protectorate, prisoners suspected of terrorism are being detained at a US military base and interrogated. The island is completely isolated: there is not another bit of land within a radius of over 1,500 km.
The uninhabited 16 km long coral atoll was discovered in the 16th century by the Portuguese and later annexed by the British colonial empire. The colonial power brought workers to the island to cultivate coconuts. In 1960, when Diego Garcia was to be turned over to military use, the British relocated the inhabitants at that time to the island of Mauritius, about 2,000 km away. In 1965, when many of Great Britain's former colonies in the Indian Ocean gained independence, the islands remaining with Great Britain, including Diego Garcia, were gathered under the name "British Indian Ocean Territory." Legally, the island is therefore British territory. A representative of the British government has sovereignty over local administration and is the supreme judge for all matters subject to British law. Under him are the customs officials, police officers, and a unit of the Royal Marines, which is responsible for the protection of the entire "British Indian Ocean Territory".
In 1971 the USA began building military facilities on the island. The legal foundation for this is a gratuitous lease contract provisionally limited to 2016 between the UK and the USA. This enables the United States to erect a naval base and communication facilities on a part of the island. Initially, only the construction of a radio station, a dock and a small runway were planned. Later another building for personnel was built, along with several hangars and storehouses. The US soldiers were quartered in tents in so-called "Camp Justice" or on freight ships in the lagoon of the island. Up until the 1980s, the facilities, access to which was limited exclusively to US military personnel, were continuously expanded: the harbor area was enlarged and the runway extended to 4 km. Meanwhile, Diego Garcia has been developed into one of the main naval bases of the USA. As a so-called "Footprint of Freedom", the base is highly important for military operations in the Indian Ocean and Arab region. During the first Gulf War in 1990/91 the number of military personnel stationed at Diego Garcia doubled, and the island was used intensively for war operations. Diego Garcia was the only US base, from which direct air strikes were flown. In recent years, the island has also repeatedly served as a base for war operations, for example against Iraq in 1998 and against Afghanistan in 2001.
At present, the United States is holding suspected Taliban fighters and Al Qaida members prisoner. According to reports from human rights organizations, brutal interrogations measures are used there, similar to interrogations in Bagram. Because the island belongs to the territory of the UK, however, Human Rights Watch demands that the British government ensure that no human rights violations take place there through the USA. In a letter to Tony Blair, Human Rights Watch argues that the British government's obligation to prevent, investigate and prosecute any case of torture according to International Law applies to the entire territory subject to British jurisdiction.[11] |
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RFM
'Our Scotland' = 2nd Job!
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How far we have fallen.
Twenty-seven years ago, Tom Ahern, the CIA Station chief in Iran, who had been captured by the Iranian Guards, faced his interrogator in an Iranian prison. Ahern was about to be released and the interrogator apologized to Ahern for the abuse he had been subjected to, and offered to allow Ahern to abuse him in return. (A Mongolian concept, by the way). According to the New York times, Ahern is alleged to have told his captor, "We don't do that".
How far we have fallen. |
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