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Rinty · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: "I am a cheat" says Kevin Thomson

Rangers player Kevin Thomson today apologised for his cheating in last week's old firm game. The average midfielder said:

" It's true, I should have been booked and as it would have been a second yellow I should have been off the park. I apologise to celtic and acknowledge that they should have won the game if they were given their blatant penalty and I had been sent off."

The diver also praised his former mate Scott Brown. "Brown could have easily fallen down when he was fouled in the box but stayed on his feet, I would have dived before I was even tackled and that highlights the difference between me and Scott. He is an honest grafter, I am a cheat."

Cymro · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject:

Quite shocked he admitted it like that. Good on him in that respect. You're just sore because he scored a good goal Rinty. You know it! Very Happy

Rinty · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

er, cymru, check the date on the post!

I am just shocked that our tabloids have not reacted in the way they did over a petrov or mikilaunas dive! I mean they hate that sort of thing don't they?

Cymro · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject:

Rinty · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject:

There is no way that the press coverage has been comparable to say, mikolinaus or Christino Ronaldo, they were more or less calling for deportations.

The press coverage in scotland has been of a 'did he didnt he' type and that the players union came out in support of him.

What made it worse was that it was so blatant and that it should have been a red card, and that he lay on the ground for 4 minutes and it wasnt added on to the injury time at the end.

You are right that every fan thinks his team is hard done by, but their has been no press condemnation of this and there would be if the player wasnt scottish.

I think the guys a good player and that this ruined what should have been a memorable day for him, but instead of being remembered as the guy who played well and sacored the winning goal, he will be remembered for the most ridiculous dive we have see for ages, and avoiding a second yellow.

I accept the terrible decision when brown was fouled in the box was just poor refereeing and not bias, but Thomson has got off lightly. But it is related to Thomsons incident as we are suipposed to be stamping out diving but the pundits advice to Brown seems to be that he should have went down.

The Scottish press led the calls for retrospective banning of mikolaunas based on video evidence, even though the refreee called it he saw it. I have seen no such calls for this to happen to Thomson even though his was worse as he actually kicked Samaras and the dived.

And I had a third april fool re the tories and Kev04 swallowed that one for a minute or two. Smile

Reluctant Hero · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:

While you never want to see a footballer injured, I smirked slightly when Thomson was stretchered off.
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Cymro · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject:

Rinty · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

We will have to agree to disagree, I consider Petrov to have been given worse treatnent and, in general, we show a national bias, especially among our journalists and commentators.

Every time a player from a european team goes down against a scottish team we tut and moan about their play acting, if the same is true of a scottish player we say things like "well, there was contact" "making the most of it" "a striker will go down in a situation like that, it's the modern game".

I think there was a bit of criticism of thomon from the press, but it came later, almost as a reaction to the lesser immediate coverage, that focused on the Players Union leader backing him (in a personal capacity).

Cymro · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:23 am Post subject:

Rinty · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:34 am Post subject:

I never claimed it was because players were celtic or ex-celtic at any point in my posts. I didnt say that people were not talking about it either.

The negative reaction was less than it would be for a froreign player, in my opinion, and most of the negative reporting came later with the intital reaction being less so. I think the reaction would have been different if it had been Nacho Novo, and Scott Brown's situation was followed by commenttators saying that 'he should have gone down'.

You mention the BBC, they mentioned his dive in passing in a report when he was described as 'impressive' and two days latetr the story was that the players union boss was backing him.

But please don't ry to turn this in to the usual paranoid celtic fan nonsense. My examples were Petrov, who was slated for diving, and a hearts player and man utd player!!

I saw a tabloid report of the Rangers-Sporting Lisbon game last week (I think the daily mail) who slammed Lisbon as cheaters and divers, thats part of scottish and british reporting of foreign team.

Cymro · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject:

Rinty · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:11 am Post subject:

It was an april fools joke cymru and, as a celtic supporter, then, no, it wouldnt have been written about a celtic player by me, obviously. But if it had been written about a celtic player, on aprils fools day, then I wouldnt be arguing about it.

The subsequent argument, about how our media and fans treat diving, is nothing to do with me being a celtic supporter. As I said, if it had been a foreign player who had done what Thomson did, the reaction would have been worse. As I said, our commentators mostly thought that Scott Brown should have 'gone down' when fouled by Whittaker. Our views on diving when it is 'one of our own' are hypocritical.