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Pip
Gaining a Reputation........
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Location: Kent, England
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| Corby Boy wrote: | A Message to Andrew Constantine, Pip and all like minded English folk:
Happy St George's Day, from your friendly neighbours frae Scotland!
(PS. I think friendly relations with Celtic Neighbours and recognition of Cornwall's Independent and Celtic Status is the right way to go). |
Cheers Corby Boy! Mine's been rather good and we've been lucky with the weather, at least in Kent.
It's felt bigger this year than ever, flags all over and very few people unaware of what today is.
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Rinty
Ready For Afterlife!
Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 2598
Location: SW Scotland
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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"It is a fact that HMG expenditure in Scotland under the Barnett Formula is higher on a per capita basis than in England."
All funding that uses the barnett formula is exactly the same per head of capita as the barnett forumla is a calculation that is based on population share.
Situations that ae not covered by barnett such as benefts are where we end up with higher per capita figure that is often quoted. The per capita spend is higher if you take scotland and england as whole units. Of course there are areas of england wth higher per capita spend than scotland (LONDON FOR INSTANCE). |
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Andrew Constantine
On A Journey (500 Miles)
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
Posts: 22
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Who is being exploited? |
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| Dave Coull wrote: |
Andrew says "If Scotland wishes to take in more immigrants, then that should be the call of the Scottish government and citizens - and no business of mine, nor of other Englishmen. But that same point applies as regards England's ability or desire to take more immigration as well: it should be the decision of the government based in London and the English people."
It is perfectly possible to support the view that a country should be independent, and choose its own course, and yet hold views on what is universally the right thing to do. So far as I personally am concerned, opposition to exploitation is one of the universal principles. Another is freedom of movement.
So yes, it is up to the citizens of a country to decide that country's policies; but I don't agree with the "no business of mine" attitude. Some things are everybody's business. Slavery is one of them; racism and restrictions on movement are others. Rinty is right to withhold his support for the Free England Party. That doesn't diminish the right of the people of England to decide the policies for their country, it just means that he (and I) choose not to support a particular political party whose politics we don't like. |
You raise some key issues and I would like to cover two of them.
The free immigration policy that the UK has to have in respect of EU citiizens has certainly benefitted business, and of course the hardworking Polish and other EU migrant workers themselves. But it has been very tough for those fellow countrymen of ours who have to compete against them. And if you increase the supply of labour, then doesn't the price of it come down? I thought it was accepted that this unrestricted EU immigration has hit hardest the people on the bottom of the ladder. As someone who is meant to care for his nation (i.e. a nationalist) that has to be a matter of concern for me.
As regards my tough views on immigration, I know of no state that does not have immigration controls. It is not widely known that England has a higher population density than either India or China. Demographic projections show the UK population going over 70 million, with almost all the increase expected in London and the South East. Also relevant is that there are several million economically inactive fellow citizens of ours of working age. I think they deserve to have good employment prospects as a basic human right. If we allow migrants to take spare jobs, it's hard to see how they will ever get a decent job.
Our positions are at variance, but I hope mine are not without reason.
Regards, Andrew
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Andrew Constantine
On A Journey (500 Miles)
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: 23 Aptil - The day was a wipe out |
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| Corby Boy wrote: | A Message to Andrew Constantine, Pip and all like minded English folk:
Happy St George's Day, from your friendly neighbours frae Scotland!
(PS. I think friendly relations with Celtic Neighbours and recognition of Cornwall's Independent and Celtic Status is the right way to go). |
Corby Boy
Thank you for the good wishes.
Yesterday was quite something as a few of us launched our "The English Claim of Right" campaign and website (see separate thread) and we had some 600 plus people who registered on the site and which caused a huge amount of work.
It looks like business has decided to cash in on SGD so it will become an ever bigger event each year.
The best bit about the day is that there are elections every 1 May in England, so the sight of the cosg (English flag) around each 23/04 might have a silver lining to English nationalists.
Kind Regards, Andrew
PS I accept the hint and feel that is the best way in any event on various criteria, such as it is the right thing to do.
In fact I spent three years in Wales when young and have a very high opinion of the people and the culture of Wales. No problems with Scotland at all, and I am learning about Cornwall much that maybe I should have already known. Northern Ireland is not an issue either - it seems generally accepted as being on the road to unification with the Republic. Just leaves the French to be nasty about (only joking!)
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Dave Coull
Independentista
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Andrew wrote “Our positions are at variance, but I hope mine are not without reason.”
Your party is more reasonable than the so-called “English Democrats”. THEIR pronouncements are downright offensive. Nevertheless, Rinty has said that he would not support the Free England Party, and I agree. This isn’t a question of mutual recognition of sovereignty, it’s a question of liking or disliking the policies of a particular political party.
“As regards my tough views on immigration, I know of no state that does not have immigration controls” - the tougher the restrictions you support, the more power you put into the hands of the state authorities. You may have a touching faith in the benevolence of all state authority, I don’t. Increasing State power makes it more tempting for authoritarians of the right, left, and centre, to try to get their hands on that power, but it doesn’t suit those for whom the individual liberty of all (not just of migrants) is important. |
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agentmancuso
Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2008
Location: Darkest Lanarkshire
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: |
“As regards my tough views on immigration, I know of no state that does not have immigration controls” - the tougher the restrictions you support, the more power you put into the hands of the state authorities. You may have a touching faith in the benevolence of all state authority, I don’t. Increasing State power makes it more tempting for authoritarians of the right, left, and centre, to try to get their hands on that power, but it doesn’t suit those for whom the individual liberty of all (not just of migrants) is important. |
Very sensible Mr Coull.
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agentmancuso
Collecting my 'Our Scotland' Pension!
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2008
Location: Darkest Lanarkshire
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Mr Constantine's results:
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Name Party % +/- Total
Tony Arbour CON 40.82 9.29 76,913
Stephen Knight LD 26.53 -2.37 49,985
Ansuya Sodha LAB 16.02 -0.26 30,190
John Hunt GRN 6.78 0.41 12,774
Andrew Cripps NF 2.52 0 4,754
Peter Dul UKIP 2.01 -6.04 3,779
Sue May CPA 1.97 0.03 3,718
Andrew Constantine FRE 1.54 0 2,908
Roger Cooper END 0.99 0 1,874
Tansy Hoskins LL 0.81 0 1,526
TURNOUT
Total 45.39% |
As far as I can make out, he was the only candidate under this label.
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