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Lewis · No Longer a Wean Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 81

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7360118.stm

What's your opinion? I personally think he'll get voted out next election unless he's been a good representative. Because the next election is the big Tory push in England.

It personally makes me shudder, but people are entitled to their opinions.

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Aventinian · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:13 am Post subject:

I do like the occasionally fringe-y type in Parliament to liven things up, so I'm quite eager to see if he makes any sort of visible contribution. Realistically though, it's no big thing and UKIP are an awful party full of Europhobes.
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Blackleaf · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

UKIP is a great party and is only doing its best to try and free the country it loves from the meddling grasp of Brussels.

Isn't it funny how some Scottish Nationalists are so quick to vote for parties that say they want to free Scotland from Westminster and yet are, at the same time, so willing to have Scotland controlled from Brussels, the same Brussels that has ruined, amongst other things, Scotland's fishing industry?

I, like the majority of people in Britain, am fed up with being ruled by a group of UNELECTED foreigners who create the vast majority of laws in Britain - many of them absurd laws to an extremely high degree.

I'm fed up with the outrageous Human Rights Act that the EU foisted upon us - the Act that says we musn't deport evil foreign rapists, terrorists and murderers back to their home countries even if we don't want this scum in our country.

I'm fed up with the Eu trying to foist daft Metric measurements on Britain, despite the fact that the vast majority of the British people only think in normal, sane, Imperial measurement (How many people here would be willing to go into a pub and say: "Can I have a 0.7 litre of Stella, please?" rather than saying "Can I have a pint of Stella, please?")

I'm fed up with the EU shrinking Britain's fishing fleets whilst increasing the size of those of countries such as Spain and France and I'm fed up with foreign EU fishermen fishing in British waters.

Britain needs to leave the EU before it damages this country even more.

The EU's latest assault on Britain (and Scotland) is to get rid of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland altogether and instead creating new "regions."

If the EU has its way, there'll soon be no Scotland. Instead, Western Scotland will unify with Western England, the whole of Wales and the whole of the island of Ireland to form a new entity called "The Atlantic Region". This would mean that Western Scotland won't be ruled from Edinburgh - it'll be ruled from Portugal.

Eastern Scotland will break away from Western Scotland and unify with eastern England, northern Belgium and Holland, northern Germany, Denmark, the whole of Sweden and the whole of Norway (I don't know what the Norwegians will think of this as they aren't even in the EU) to form the "North Sea Region". Edinburgh will cease to be the capital city if you live in eastern Scotland and instead your new capital will probably be Copenhagen as the region will be administered from Denmark.

The South East of England, meanwhile, will unify with Northern France to form the "TransManche Region". Naturally, its headquarters will be in northern France and not South Eastern England.

With all this in mind, will you still think of UKIP as just a bunch of "Europhiles"?

Whinge about UKIP all you like, but if Britain isn't independent from the EU soon then there'll be no Scotland anymore.

The reason why UKIP now has an MP in an English constituency is probably just because the English are sensible.

Blackleaf · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject:

Say goodbye to England, Scotland, France, Holland etc if the unelected EU eurocrats have their way.

Read this - and then make sure you vote UKIP at the next General Election and stop it from happening....

Up the pole: EU to carve up UK

By CLODAGH HARTLEY
Home Affairs Correspondent
Published: 23 Apr 2008
The Sun

Tribute ... Prime Minister Gordon Brown will fly English flag for St George's Day

GORDON Brown will today fly the flag of St George over Downing Street — as the EU plots to carve up Britain into a United States of Europe.

Secret plans reveal the South of England will be renamed TRANSMANCHE — and governed in part by bureaucrats based in France.

Two more “Transnational” zones are also being set up to “promote the territorial agenda” of the EU.

Goodbye England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland... how EU wants to get rid of nation states and create new "regions" in its quest to become one country

The ATLANTIC REGION — stretching thousands of miles from the northern tip of Scotland to southern Spain — will take in western England and Wales, along with parts of Portugal and France.

And the NORTH SEA REGION will cover chunks of eastern England and eastern Scotland, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Holland, and the Flemish part of Belgium.

The Atlantic will have its headquarters in Portugal, the North Sea in Denmark.

Ironically, news of the carve-up comes on St George’s Day — England’s national day.

Critics, including the Tories, claim the new regions “ignore thousands of years of history and wipe England off the map”.

Spokesman Eric Pickles said: “We knew Gordon Brown had hoisted the white flag of surrender to the European Constitution.

“Now the Labour Government has been caught red-handed, conspiring with European bureaucrats to create a European Superstate via the back door.”

The stated “strategic objective” of the regions is to “support the emergence of a common space of citizenship, a sense of belonging to a cross-border area with a unique identity”.

For Britain, that means issues like transport, the environment, shipping and “cross-cultural links” — which could include tourism and town-twinning.

The three regions have been granted £660million of EU funds between them, with each handling its own budget.

A Government spokesman said: “It is about support for business, boosting employment and turning around our deprived areas.”

The controversial move to reshape national boundaries — which also insists any projects in those areas must “fly the EU flag” — emerged as England celebrates its patron saint’s day.

Proud ... support for Englishness over 10 Downing Street

For the first time on St George’s Day, the national flag will be hoisted today in Downing Street.

It follows a review of flag-flying practices ordered by Mr Brown which will see all government buildings “encouraged” to display the English national flag alongside the Union flag.

In a wider celebration of nationality, Number 10 will also fly the Scottish Saltire and the Welsh Dragon on their saints’ days.

A spokesman for the Prime Minister said: “His view is that of course we should celebrate our Britishness, but celebrating our Britishness does not mean we cannot also celebrate our Englishness, Scottishness, Welshness or Northern Irishness.”

A WHOPPING 85 per cent of English people want to celebrate St George’s Day, a new poll reveals. That soars to 91 per cent among patriotic over-55s.

The idea has been backed by Tory leader David Cameron who pledged to consider making St George's Day a national holiday if elected.

thesun.co.uk

Lewis · No Longer a Wean Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 81

macnumpty · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject:

The fact that Blackleaf thinks that anyone has accused UKIP of being Europhiles shows that he might want to start reading newspaper articles before he copies and pastes them. Very Happy

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Abieuan · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject:

Blackleaf wrote:

Lewis · No Longer a Wean Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 81

Then sun is a very talented paper when it comes to speaking crap. Sadly some people will think those new borders will happen.

One can only presume they won't as I am sure MEPs must at least have on brain cell.
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Morph · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:

Blatent scaremongering, athough if i was the case teh north sea region would be fine by me, the scandinavian countries have good government structures and Norway has a world envied education system, might be better to be in with them than that lot in London
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