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parkhead_rfb
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| Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
PARKIE! You're back! Was getting a bit worried about you.
Now to the s***e you posted.
There was a good mention of Borucs pathetic behaviour in Tam Cowans bit in the Daily Record today, basically he makes light of the situation (saying the only person that should be pisse doff by this t-shirt should be Pope Benedict for being ignored) but he also importantl;y points out that Boruc would never think of doing what he did if he was playing against any other football club.
Boruc basically chose to cheapen the image of the dead Pontiff in order to wind up the Rangers support, nothing to go with him being proud to be Catholic or Polish, all to do with antagonising people.
Remember when Gazza got into s**t for pretending to play a flute when he scored years ago. He rightly got into s**t because of the risk of trouble from what he did.
However using your logic such behaviour would be fine, "unless they ban flutes and be done with it".
Boruc knows full well his behaviour will be seen and analysed by fans not only in the stadium but beyond and he wanted his actions to spark trouble.
Obviosuly though it wouldn't have just been Tic fans taking a beating would it. Both sides have fans who can be equally active with their fists when need be. |
arthur boruc previously wore a t shirt with the pope on it during the national anthem. i think i am right in saying this was before he even played for celtic.
boruc also has a large photo of the pope in his house. the picture has been on display on his web page for sometime now.
therefore as my first point clearly shows....you talk s***e.
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parkhead_rfb
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its also interesting there has been no discussion thus far of the celtic fan murdered for being a celtic fan or the banner "voodooo no worky" which was aimed at boruc the last time celtic played at ibrox.
artur boruc has to suffer banners, police warnings for blessing himself and many choice insults for his religion from rangers fans yet these types are to then be treated with kid gloves lest they not go out and kill and injure even more people?
as i have already said this is the only country where this would even be an issue.
had eto revealed a "proud to be black" t shirt at barca's next game v osasuna i would bet all the types on here would be congratulating him for standing up to the racists. artur boruc does the same and is condemned while the world looks on wondering exactly what the problem is with a pope t shirt.
artur boruc has actually done us all a favour for exposing the undercurrent of anti catholic hatred with exists in this country.
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youatethebabyjesus
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | its also interesting there has been no discussion thus far of the celtic fan murdered for being a celtic fan or the banner "voodooo no worky" which was aimed at boruc the last time celtic played at ibrox.
artur boruc has to suffer banners, police warnings for blessing himself and many choice insults for his religion from rangers fans yet these types are to then be treated with kid gloves lest they not go out and kill and injure even more people?
as i have already said this is the only country where this would even be an issue.
had eto revealed a "proud to be black" t shirt at barca's next game v osasuna i would bet all the types on here would be congratulating him for standing up to the racists. artur boruc does the same and is condemned while the world looks on wondering exactly what the problem is with a pope t shirt.
artur boruc has actually done us all a favour for exposing the undercurrent of anti catholic hatred with exists in this country. |
my god we have alive one here, how crazy are YOU.
1. boruc has never had police warnings about blessing himself, it was gestures he made which i'm quite sure he would not use in a chapel.
2. how convenient to ignore the murder of rangers fans.
3.artur is booed and jeered everywhere he goes because he winds up the opposition, again you conveniently ignore this.
4. oh those naughty football funs being nasty, i suppose singing about nacho nov0 being shot in his sleep by the ira is just the 'craic' from the cointhrowers?
5. if eto' produced such a t shirt then he should also be charged by uefa under the laws noted above, here are rascits out there who could well be provoked, thats the whole f***ing point of banning such t shirts.
6. you are a twit. |
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azzuri
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
I can't believe you can't see how his actions were not provocative?
You are right in that there are a small proportion of Scottish society who hold sectarian views regarding Catholics. Does that mean Boruc should openly provoke them? Some thugs just look for an excuse/trigger for their anger in order to go and beat the s**t out of someone, and Boruc gave them that.
It's ok for him, he'll drive his beemer from the stadium to his leafy suburb home and dodge all the trouble that results from Old Firm games. What about the poor innocent bastards that get attacked by some drunken louts who were wound up by Boruc's behaviour, or the doctors and nurses in A and E that need to deal with the consequences.
I had a mate who was glassed and scarred for life across his face who was mistaken for being a Rangers' fan after an Old Firm game at a night out in Glasgow. Thugs like that need any excuse.
Artur Boruc is either a selfish c**t and doesn't give a f**k what results from his actions, or a stupid one, which is it?...
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youatethebabyjesus
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| azzuri wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
I can't believe you can't see how his actions were not provocative?
You are right in that there are a small proportion of Scottish society who hold sectarian views regarding Catholics. Does that mean Boruc should openly provoke them? Some thugs just look for an excuse/trigger for their anger in order to go and beat the s**t out of someone, and Boruc gave them that.
It's ok for him, he'll drive his beemer from the stadium to his leafy suburb home and dodge all the trouble that results from Old Firm games. What about the poor innocent bastards that get attacked by some drunken louts who were wound up by Boruc's behaviour, or the doctors and nurses in A and E that need to deal with the consequences.
I had a mate who was glassed and scarred for life across his face who was mistaken for being a Rangers' fan after an Old Firm game at a night out in Glasgow. Thugs like that need any excuse.
Artur Boruc is either a selfish c**t and doesn't give a f**k what results from his actions, or a stupid one, which is it?... |
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Cymro
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[quote="parkhead_rfb"] | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
PARKIE! You're back! Was getting a bit worried about you.
Now to the s***e you posted.
There was a good mention of Borucs pathetic behaviour in Tam Cowans bit in the Daily Record today, basically he makes light of the situation (saying the only person that should be pisse doff by this t-shirt should be Pope Benedict for being ignored) but he also importantl;y points out that Boruc would never think of doing what he did if he was playing against any other football club.
Boruc basically chose to cheapen the image of the dead Pontiff in order to wind up the Rangers support, nothing to go with him being proud to be Catholic or Polish, all to do with antagonising people.
Remember when Gazza got into s**t for pretending to play a flute when he scored years ago. He rightly got into s**t because of the risk of trouble from what he did.
However using your logic such behaviour would be fine, "unless they ban flutes and be done with it".
Boruc knows full well his behaviour will be seen and analysed by fans not only in the stadium but beyond and he wanted his actions to spark trouble.
Obviosuly though it wouldn't have just been Tic fans taking a beating would it. Both sides have fans who can be equally active with their fists when need be. |
arthur boruc previously wore a t shirt with the pope on it during the national anthem. i think i am right in saying this was before he even played for celtic.
boruc also has a large photo of the pope in his house. the picture has been on display on his web page for sometime now.
therefore as my first point clearly shows....you talk s***e.[/quote
He has a picture of the Dead Pope in his house. I have a picture of my wife, my parents and sister, my inlaws, a great friend of mine who was killed, a picture of the New York Skyline, 3 pictures of Oban up on my wall. I don't put them on a t-shirt and wear them in a football match though.
Football rules state clearly NO RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL SLOGANS. Now that isn't difficultf for you or anyone else to understand. It's as clear as your s***e attempt to justify the arch pricks actions.
Had he worn one in the matches against Dundee or Motherwell I'd give him some credit. He hasn't because he only pathetically uses his religion when it comes to Celtics main rivals. Nothing more nothing less.
In fact Catholics should be more pissed off by his taky use of the dead Pontiffs image than any Rangers fan. |
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youatethebabyjesus
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| expressing your religion is one thing, whoring it is another. |
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agentmancuso
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| frank rizzo wrote: | | It's a bit bizzare to see a Che flag flown by the Celtic support while many of their fans idolise a homophobic, reactionary institution. |
Not really. Football supporters are not, as a rule, very politically informed. Old Firm supporters are even less informed than others, and 'supporters' who use these clubs as a vehicle to express their twisted identity politics are downright thick.
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agentmancuso
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| azzuri wrote: | | I can't believe you can't see how his actions were not provocative? |
There would seem little point in even trying to explain to someone who regards murdering children as a valid political action why wearing a particular T-shirt is unacceptable.
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parkhead_rfb
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| azzuri wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
I can't believe you can't see how his actions were not provocative?
You are right in that there are a small proportion of Scottish society who hold sectarian views regarding Catholics. Does that mean Boruc should openly provoke them? Some thugs just look for an excuse/trigger for their anger in order to go and beat the s**t out of someone, and Boruc gave them that.
It's ok for him, he'll drive his beemer from the stadium to his leafy suburb home and dodge all the trouble that results from Old Firm games. What about the poor innocent bastards that get attacked by some drunken louts who were wound up by Boruc's behaviour, or the doctors and nurses in A and E that need to deal with the consequences.
I had a mate who was glassed and scarred for life across his face who was mistaken for being a Rangers' fan after an Old Firm game at a night out in Glasgow. Thugs like that need any excuse.
Artur Boruc is either a selfish c**t and doesn't give a f**k what results from his actions, or a stupid one, which is it?... |
these things happened long, long before arthur boruc ever joined celtic. It really is incredible that a man who is subjected to banners and taunts over his religion is to be criticised for daring to offend the sensitivities of these people.
When marvin andrews went on about god i didnt see any type of out cry from celtic fans, similarly with the dundee player whos name escapes me produced a jesus loves you t shirt. again there was no out cry when boruc wore a pope t shirt when representing poland.
he wears a pope t shirt against rangers and all hell breaks loose. I think i know who has the problem here.
for far too long scotland has pandered to the rangers fans and their anti rc hatred and indeed it took eufa to step in before we even got any meaningfull comments from the sfa/spl on the issue.
Can i also point out that i think i am right in saying that scotland is the ONLY COUNTRY where a footballer has ever been booked for blessing themselves. (partick thistle v guess who?)
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parkhead_rfb
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[quote="Cymro"] | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
PARKIE! You're back! Was getting a bit worried about you.
Now to the s***e you posted.
There was a good mention of Borucs pathetic behaviour in Tam Cowans bit in the Daily Record today, basically he makes light of the situation (saying the only person that should be pisse doff by this t-shirt should be Pope Benedict for being ignored) but he also importantl;y points out that Boruc would never think of doing what he did if he was playing against any other football club.
Boruc basically chose to cheapen the image of the dead Pontiff in order to wind up the Rangers support, nothing to go with him being proud to be Catholic or Polish, all to do with antagonising people.
Remember when Gazza got into s**t for pretending to play a flute when he scored years ago. He rightly got into s**t because of the risk of trouble from what he did.
However using your logic such behaviour would be fine, "unless they ban flutes and be done with it".
Boruc knows full well his behaviour will be seen and analysed by fans not only in the stadium but beyond and he wanted his actions to spark trouble.
Obviosuly though it wouldn't have just been Tic fans taking a beating would it. Both sides have fans who can be equally active with their fists when need be. |
arthur boruc previously wore a t shirt with the pope on it during the national anthem. i think i am right in saying this was before he even played for celtic.
boruc also has a large photo of the pope in his house. the picture has been on display on his web page for sometime now.
therefore as my first point clearly shows....you talk s***e.[/quote
He has a picture of the Dead Pope in his house. I have a picture of my wife, my parents and sister, my inlaws, a great friend of mine who was killed, a picture of the New York Skyline, 3 pictures of Oban up on my wall. I don't put them on a t-shirt and wear them in a football match though.
Football rules state clearly NO RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL SLOGANS. Now that isn't difficultf for you or anyone else to understand. It's as clear as your s***e attempt to justify the arch pricks actions.
Had he worn one in the matches against Dundee or Motherwell I'd give him some credit. He hasn't because he only pathetically uses his religion when it comes to Celtics main rivals. Nothing more nothing less.
In fact Catholics should be more pissed off by his taky use of the dead Pontiffs image than any Rangers fan. |
so are you upset then that he broke eufa rules or the fact that he upset some bigots? which one is it.
care to explain also why there was no fuss when he wore a pope t shirt during his countrys national anthem when representing poland (he actually had the shirt on on top of his poland shirt.
you have already said he would only have worn against rangers mind you so you have already shown you dont actually know what your talking about.
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azzuri
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
I can't believe you can't see how his actions were not provocative?
You are right in that there are a small proportion of Scottish society who hold sectarian views regarding Catholics. Does that mean Boruc should openly provoke them? Some thugs just look for an excuse/trigger for their anger in order to go and beat the s**t out of someone, and Boruc gave them that.
It's ok for him, he'll drive his beemer from the stadium to his leafy suburb home and dodge all the trouble that results from Old Firm games. What about the poor innocent bastards that get attacked by some drunken louts who were wound up by Boruc's behaviour, or the doctors and nurses in A and E that need to deal with the consequences.
I had a mate who was glassed and scarred for life across his face who was mistaken for being a Rangers' fan after an Old Firm game at a night out in Glasgow. Thugs like that need any excuse.
Artur Boruc is either a selfish c**t and doesn't give a f**k what results from his actions, or a stupid one, which is it?... |
these things happened long, long before arthur boruc ever joined celtic. It really is incredible that a man who is subjected to banners and taunts over his religion is to be criticised for daring to offend the sensitivities of these people.
When marvin andrews went on about god i didnt see any type of out cry from celtic fans, similarly with the dundee player whos name escapes me produced a jesus loves you t shirt. again there was no out cry when boruc wore a pope t shirt when representing poland.
he wears a pope t shirt against rangers and all hell breaks loose. I think i know who has the problem here.
for far too long scotland has pandered to the rangers fans and their anti rc hatred and indeed it took eufa to step in before we even got any meaningfull comments from the sfa/spl on the issue.
Can i also point out that i think i am right in saying that scotland is the ONLY COUNTRY where a footballer has ever been booked for blessing themselves. (partick thistle v guess who?) |
As usual, you miss the point entirely. We have already established that Scotland has a sectarian problem. That's a straw man.
Is it therefore acceptable for the likes of Boruc to DELIBERATELY stir-up trouble by provoking those most likely to be wound up by his actions (Rangers' fans). It's interesting to note that Boruc hasn't pulled a stunt like this at a league game with any other Scottish club, I wonder why?...
He's an idiot who will be idolised as a 'hero' for his actions by another bunch of idiots.
This 'Celtic can do no wrong' attitude is tiresome and predictable, and only makes any other points you make look weaker as a result. Without honest self-examination, Scotland's sectarian links to football will never improve. If someone within the Celtic camp does something so obviously stupid, you should be man enough to come out and say so, or at the very least just keep your mouth shut.
Instead, once again, you're left looking like an arse...
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youatethebabyjesus
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[quote="parkhead_rfb"] | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | parkhead_rfb wrote: | | azzuri wrote: | ...Boruc is a f***ing idiot.
These players should be taken round the A & E wards in Glasgow the night following an old firm game to see what effect their actions have. Seriously, what an absolute c**t. |
yip thats right because a t shirt is so offensice you have to go around killing people for supporting celtic.
by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years?
we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with.
only in scotland would that t shirt be an issue and that clearly shows me its not boruc with the problem here. |
PARKIE! You're back! Was getting a bit worried about you.
Now to the s***e you posted.
There was a good mention of Borucs pathetic behaviour in Tam Cowans bit in the Daily Record today, basically he makes light of the situation (saying the only person that should be pisse doff by this t-shirt should be Pope Benedict for being ignored) but he also importantl;y points out that Boruc would never think of doing what he did if he was playing against any other football club.
Boruc basically chose to cheapen the image of the dead Pontiff in order to wind up the Rangers support, nothing to go with him being proud to be Catholic or Polish, all to do with antagonising people.
Remember when Gazza got into s**t for pretending to play a flute when he scored years ago. He rightly got into s**t because of the risk of trouble from what he did.
However using your logic such behaviour would be fine, "unless they ban flutes and be done with it".
Boruc knows full well his behaviour will be seen and analysed by fans not only in the stadium but beyond and he wanted his actions to spark trouble.
Obviosuly though it wouldn't have just been Tic fans taking a beating would it. Both sides have fans who can be equally active with their fists when need be. |
arthur boruc previously wore a t shirt with the pope on it during the national anthem. i think i am right in saying this was before he even played for celtic.
boruc also has a large photo of the pope in his house. the picture has been on display on his web page for sometime now.
therefore as my first point clearly shows....you talk s***e.[/quote
He has a picture of the Dead Pope in his house. I have a picture of my wife, my parents and sister, my inlaws, a great friend of mine who was killed, a picture of the New York Skyline, 3 pictures of Oban up on my wall. I don't put them on a t-shirt and wear them in a football match though.
Football rules state clearly NO RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL SLOGANS. Now that isn't difficultf for you or anyone else to understand. It's as clear as your s***e attempt to justify the arch pricks actions.
Had he worn one in the matches against Dundee or Motherwell I'd give him some credit. He hasn't because he only pathetically uses his religion when it comes to Celtics main rivals. Nothing more nothing less.
In fact Catholics should be more pissed off by his taky use of the dead Pontiffs image than any Rangers fan. |
so are you upset then that he broke eufa rules or the fact that he upset some bigots? which one is it.
care to explain also why there was no fuss when he wore a pope t shirt during his countrys national anthem when representing poland (he actually had the shirt on on top of his poland shirt.
you have already said he would only have worn against rangers mind you so you have already shown you dont actually know what your talking about. |
i've heard your tabloid rantings and 'points' on the realradio football phone in, i've also seen you try and justify your warped and minority opinions in the daily record hotline, well i'm priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiti certain it was you, there cannot be many more like you in this modern, liberal and secular society. |
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frank rizzo
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I've little time for any religious institution and find the general idea of a supreme sky fairy ridiculous. Splitting hairs about who has the best brand (as loads of daft old firm fans do) is just a pointless waste of energy if you ask me.
Boruc can pray to whatever the hell he likes and I certainly took no offence to his t shirt, even though that guy had deeply reactionary, homophobic and down right disturbing views. He was just another leader of a belief system I dont buy into.
The actions of Boruc actually done two things - it belittled his faith as that was done purely to antagonise the rangers support and it made a mockery of celtic's 'inclusive club' image.
Of course loads of ignorant bigots took offence to the t shirt because they're paranoid, neanderthal bigots, but thats not the point here ParkeadRFB.
I'm sure you know that though.
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Cymro
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| Quote: | | so are you upset then that he broke eufa rules or the fact that he upset some bigots? which one is it. |
Oh Parkie, Parkie, Parkie, are you really that stupid? Or is it that you have increadibly blinkered vision when it comes to Boruc? Do you not realise that at this moment in time you are trying to defend the indefensible?
Look at my very first post on this subject, it's not that far back. Here is what I said:
| Quote: | | While it says a lot about people who would get offended by a t-shirt of the Pope, it's clear Boruc was trying to antagonise the Rangers support as much as possible. |
Now I know you can read and I make it quite clear that I have no time AT ALL for people who choose to be offended by a man that croses himself of simply is a Catholic.
However Boruc clearly was not simply "being a Catholic" here, he uses his denomination in 4 games a year - when Celtic play against Rangers in order to wind up the opposition fans. He whores his religion by making gestures such as wearing a t-shirt cheapeining the image of a dead Pope.
Why does he not behave like this when Celtic play the likes of Motherwell? If you are a devout follower of a religion you celebrate that religion 24 hours a Day, 7 days a week. If his way of doing this is genuinly to wear a cheapo t-shirt then why not after they beat St Mirren or Inverness Calley Thistle or Gretna?
It's not his love of his religion that leads to this behaviour it's the fact he's a tosser of the highest order who will use what ever he can to get some attention. It's purely coincidental that in this context it's of the head of the Catholic Church. If I was the Head of the Catholic Church in Scotland I'd be disgusted by a fellow Catholic for using the sacred image of a dead Pope purely for this purpose.
| Quote: | | care to explain also why there was no fuss when he wore a pope t shirt during his countrys national anthem when representing poland (he actually had the shirt on on top of his poland shirt. |
I can only take your word that this happened. But assuming it's true as you tell it do you think for a minute this may of happened soon after Pope John Paul the 2nd died? Poland being his homeland and all. Would make sense don't you think? What was so significant about last Sunday on Celtic Park after beating Rangers for him to do this?
F All, other than it was a great way in his tiny little mind to create some trouble and attention for himself yet again.
| Quote: | | you have already said he would only have worn against rangers mind you so you have already shown you dont actually know what your talking about. |
Huh? It's explained myself as clear as is possible. It's you that just wants to defend him at all costs, comments such as
| Quote: | | we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with. |
make you look a little soft in the head to be completly honest. Likewise when it's ok for you to make comments such as:
| Quote: | | by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years? |
But when someone else points out that people also get attacked for being or appearing to be Rangers fans you respond with this little gem:
| Quote: | | these things happened long, long before arthur boruc ever joined celtic. |
Which proves if ever any proof was needed that you've created one little rule for anything you like and another for anything else. One is right in your eyes and this other can be ignored despite there being no difference. Lovely! |
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parkhead_rfb
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| frank rizzo wrote: | I've little time for any religious institution and find the general idea of a supreme sky fairy ridiculous. Splitting hairs about who has the best brand (as loads of daft old firm fans do) is just a pointless waste of energy if you ask me.
Boruc can pray to whatever the hell he likes and I certainly took no offence to his t shirt, even though that guy had deeply reactionary, homophobic and down right disturbing views. He was just another leader of a belief system I dont buy into.
The actions of Boruc actually done two things - it belittled his faith as that was done purely to antagonise the rangers support and it made a mockery of celtic's 'inclusive club' image.
Of course loads of ignorant bigots took offence to the t shirt because they're paranoid, neanderthal bigots, but thats not the point here ParkeadRFB.
I'm sure you know that though. |
well what is the point then? have we all to back down to them in case we offend the sensitive little intolerants?
this guy is subjected to banners and chants mocking his faith yet no mention of that on here. he wears a t shirt in defiance of the bigots and its an uproar and he's all the names under the sun for doing it?
The fact is the rest of the world will see who has the real issue here and its certainly not artur boruc. I dont remember any outcry from celtic fans or the same people on here when marvin andrews was overtly public with his faith.
in fact did he not wear a t shirt about god when we lost the league at motherwell?
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parkhead_rfb
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Cymro wrote: | | Quote: | | so are you upset then that he broke eufa rules or the fact that he upset some bigots? which one is it. |
Oh Parkie, Parkie, Parkie, are you really that stupid? Or is it that you have increadibly blinkered vision when it comes to Boruc? Do you not realise that at this moment in time you are trying to defend the indefensible?
Look at my very first post on this subject, it's not that far back. Here is what I said:
| Quote: | | While it says a lot about people who would get offended by a t-shirt of the Pope, it's clear Boruc was trying to antagonise the Rangers support as much as possible. |
Now I know you can read and I make it quite clear that I have no time AT ALL for people who choose to be offended by a man that croses himself of simply is a Catholic.
However Boruc clearly was not simply "being a Catholic" here, he uses his denomination in 4 games a year - when Celtic play against Rangers in order to wind up the opposition fans. He whores his religion by making gestures such as wearing a t-shirt cheapeining the image of a dead Pope.
Why does he not behave like this when Celtic play the likes of Motherwell? If you are a devout follower of a religion you celebrate that religion 24 hours a Day, 7 days a week. If his way of doing this is genuinly to wear a cheapo t-shirt then why not after they beat St Mirren or Inverness Calley Thistle or Gretna?
It's not his love of his religion that leads to this behaviour it's the fact he's a tosser of the highest order who will use what ever he can to get some attention. It's purely coincidental that in this context it's of the head of the Catholic Church. If I was the Head of the Catholic Church in Scotland I'd be disgusted by a fellow Catholic for using the sacred image of a dead Pope purely for this purpose.
| Quote: | | care to explain also why there was no fuss when he wore a pope t shirt during his countrys national anthem when representing poland (he actually had the shirt on on top of his poland shirt. |
I can only take your word that this happened. But assuming it's true as you tell it do you think for a minute this may of happened soon after Pope John Paul the 2nd died? Poland being his homeland and all. Would make sense don't you think? What was so significant about last Sunday on Celtic Park after beating Rangers for him to do this?
F All, other than it was a great way in his tiny little mind to create some trouble and attention for himself yet again.
| Quote: | | you have already said he would only have worn against rangers mind you so you have already shown you dont actually know what your talking about. |
Huh? It's explained myself as clear as is possible. It's you that just wants to defend him at all costs, comments such as
| Quote: | | we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with. |
make you look a little soft in the head to be completly honest. Likewise when it's ok for you to make comments such as:
| Quote: | | by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years? |
But when someone else points out that people also get attacked for being or appearing to be Rangers fans you respond with this little gem:
| Quote: | | these things happened long, long before arthur boruc ever joined celtic. |
Which proves if ever any proof was needed that you've created one little rule for anything you like and another for anything else. One is right in your eyes and this other can be ignored despite there being no difference. Lovely! |
so its ok for him to do it for poland as he's a great figure in poland. he is then abused, subjected to banners about a man so respected in his country that he wears a t shirt to show their abuse makes no difference to him and he's proud to be catholic....and he's in the wrong?
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Cymro
I need ma own bl**dy forum!
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | Cymro wrote: | | Quote: | | so are you upset then that he broke eufa rules or the fact that he upset some bigots? which one is it. |
Oh Parkie, Parkie, Parkie, are you really that stupid? Or is it that you have increadibly blinkered vision when it comes to Boruc? Do you not realise that at this moment in time you are trying to defend the indefensible?
Look at my very first post on this subject, it's not that far back. Here is what I said:
| Quote: | | While it says a lot about people who would get offended by a t-shirt of the Pope, it's clear Boruc was trying to antagonise the Rangers support as much as possible. |
Now I know you can read and I make it quite clear that I have no time AT ALL for people who choose to be offended by a man that croses himself of simply is a Catholic.
However Boruc clearly was not simply "being a Catholic" here, he uses his denomination in 4 games a year - when Celtic play against Rangers in order to wind up the opposition fans. He whores his religion by making gestures such as wearing a t-shirt cheapeining the image of a dead Pope.
Why does he not behave like this when Celtic play the likes of Motherwell? If you are a devout follower of a religion you celebrate that religion 24 hours a Day, 7 days a week. If his way of doing this is genuinly to wear a cheapo t-shirt then why not after they beat St Mirren or Inverness Calley Thistle or Gretna?
It's not his love of his religion that leads to this behaviour it's the fact he's a tosser of the highest order who will use what ever he can to get some attention. It's purely coincidental that in this context it's of the head of the Catholic Church. If I was the Head of the Catholic Church in Scotland I'd be disgusted by a fellow Catholic for using the sacred image of a dead Pope purely for this purpose.
| Quote: | | care to explain also why there was no fuss when he wore a pope t shirt during his countrys national anthem when representing poland (he actually had the shirt on on top of his poland shirt. |
I can only take your word that this happened. But assuming it's true as you tell it do you think for a minute this may of happened soon after Pope John Paul the 2nd died? Poland being his homeland and all. Would make sense don't you think? What was so significant about last Sunday on Celtic Park after beating Rangers for him to do this?
F All, other than it was a great way in his tiny little mind to create some trouble and attention for himself yet again.
| Quote: | | you have already said he would only have worn against rangers mind you so you have already shown you dont actually know what your talking about. |
Huh? It's explained myself as clear as is possible. It's you that just wants to defend him at all costs, comments such as
| Quote: | | we really should just introduce a law in this country about being openly catholic and have done with. |
make you look a little soft in the head to be completly honest. Likewise when it's ok for you to make comments such as:
| Quote: | | by the way what t shirt sparked off the other murders of celtic fans in recent years? |
But when someone else points out that people also get attacked for being or appearing to be Rangers fans you respond with this little gem:
| Quote: | | these things happened long, long before arthur boruc ever joined celtic. |
Which proves if ever any proof was needed that you've created one little rule for anything you like and another for anything else. One is right in your eyes and this other can be ignored despite there being no difference. Lovely! |
so its ok for him to do it for poland as he's a great figure in poland. he is then abused, subjected to banners about a man so respected in his country that he wears a t shirt to show their abuse makes no difference to him and he's proud to be catholic....and he's in the wrong? |
Parkie again (delibretly I'm sure) you miss the point.
Pope John Paul the 2nd was Polish, Poland is proably the most devout Catholic country in Europe. He'd just died. Had Boruc worn this t-shirt in a Celtic Rangers match soon after the Pope died, or even had it been on the anniversary death your argument that he was simply doing it for being proud or what ever would hold a little bit of water and credibility. However it's pretty clear that the intentions in a Polish International match and the intentions here are two very different things.
Sometimes it's best the stay quiet and look stupid and say something and remove all doubt of your stupidity Parkie.  |
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youatethebabyjesus
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Joined: 18 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| parkhead_rfb wrote: | | frank rizzo wrote: | I've little time for any religious institution and find the general idea of a supreme sky fairy ridiculous. Splitting hairs about who has the best brand (as loads of daft old firm fans do) is just a pointless waste of energy if you ask me.
Boruc can pray to whatever the hell he likes and I certainly took no offence to his t shirt, even though that guy had deeply reactionary, homophobic and down right disturbing views. He was just another leader of a belief system I dont buy into.
The actions of Boruc actually done two things - it belittled his faith as that was done purely to antagonise the rangers support and it made a mockery of celtic's 'inclusive club' image.
Of course loads of ignorant bigots took offence to the t shirt because they're paranoid, neanderthal bigots, but thats not the point here ParkeadRFB.
I'm sure you know that though. |
well what is the point then? have we all to back down to them in case we offend the sensitive little intolerants?
this guy is subjected to banners and chants mocking his faith yet no mention of that on here. he wears a t shirt in defiance of the bigots and its an uproar and he's all the names under the sun for doing it?
The fact is the rest of the world will see who has the real issue here and its certainly not artur boruc. I dont remember any outcry from celtic fans or the same people on here when marvin andrews was overtly public with his faith.
in fact did he not wear a t shirt about god when we lost the league at motherwell? |
f***ing tremendous, people like you really do exist,brilliant, ifeel better about myself very quickly when i know dimwitted planks like you really exist. you stupid, intolerant bigot. we don't want you in scotland.
btw celtic did not LOSE the leaugue, rangers WON it that year.hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. i feel your pain. |
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Cymro
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Would you be happy if a Rangers player wore a t-shirt with God Save the Queen or possibly an Orange Sash in the next Old Firm match?
After all, whats good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. |
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