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a hindrance for the SNP?
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mal
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cyber nats do a good job on the forums of the biased press,whats wrong with correcting rabid labour journos?

They must be doing a good job otherwise the Herald wouldn`t have censored comment on the opposition leader with the brain of a small planet.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

William_Cleland wrote:
The key words in what you have linked to are "where a conflict".


I disagree. In case of conflict

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the difference of positions remained of solely academic importance. As of now, no court of any Member State has ever challenged the validity of any legal act of the European Union by any other means than referring the question to the European Court of Justice.


In other words, despite all the huffing and puffing for the tabloids, it is accepted by all parties that sovereignty lies with the EU.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.conservapedia.com/European_Union

The European Court of Justice

The European Court of Justice (ECJ) ensures uniform interpretation and application of both the Treaties establishing the European Communities and the secondary legislation and other law adopted under their authority. To enable it to carry out that task, the Court has wide jurisdiction to hear various types of cases. For example, the Court has the authority to hear and issue binding judgements in lawsuits that seek to annul a law adopted by the EU, to compel an EU institution to act, or to require that a member state comply with EU law. The ECJ may issue clarifications of EU law (in response to a request for a preliminary ruling from any member state court) and hears appeals on legal questions arising out of cases at the Court of First Instance. The ECJ currently has 27 justices and eight advocates-general, who are appointed by common accord of the governments of the member states and who hold office for six-year renewable terms.


In other areas of law the relevant supranational body is the European Court of Human Rights which is related  to the Council of Europe rather than the EU:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Human_Rights

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in Strasbourg was established under the European Convention on Human Rights of 1950 to monitor compliance by Signatory Parties. The European Convention on Human Rights, or formally named Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, is one of the most important conventions adopted by the Council of Europe. All 47 member states of the Council of Europe are signatories of the Convention. Applications against Signatory Parties for human rights violations can be brought before the Court either by other States Parties or by individuals.

You really should go and read a book about federalism and European institutions and educate yourself. Not wasting any more time on you in this thread so crow away if you want about hollow self-proclaimed victories. Sovereignty in federal structures is shared with member states pooling some of their sovereignty when they form the shared federal structure, that portion of sovereignty can usually be claimed back again at a later date simply by leaving the federation.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentmancuso wrote:
Holebender wrote:
Do you honestly think Scotland circa 2020 would be anything like Ireland circa 1920?


Yes. In that the political arena will continue to be dominated by obsessive concern for Scotland's constitutional relationship with the UK for a very long time afterwards. And in that a sizable element of the population will react to changing/difficult circumstances by aggressively asserting their "identity" and banging on about "national pride" when we should be trying to fix potholes and leaking roofs instead.


I think you may have a point, although only to a limited extent andI won't bang on about Ireland as I don't have enough of a knowledge base.  

However, I doubt that a 'sizeable' element would assert themselves aggressively, although it's depressing to say that there would undoubtedly be a small number who have a prediliction for such behaviour to continue in this vein albeit with a new reason.

Of course there is no reason why we can't fix pot holes and conduct other business at the same time.  I believe we're calling it 'multi-tasking' these days Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentmancuso wrote:
Holebender wrote:
Do you honestly think Scotland circa 2020 would be anything like Ireland circa 1920?


Yes.


Then you're a bigger fool than I initially took you for.
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agentmancuso
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alasdair wrote:
I doubt that a 'sizeable' element would assert themselves aggressively, although it's depressing to say that there would undoubtedly be a small number who have a prediliction for such behaviour to continue in this vein albeit with a new reason.

Of course there is no reason why we can't fix pot holes and conduct other business at the same time.  I believe we're calling it 'multi-tasking' these days Wink


Well, I remain optimistic on the whole. But you don't have to look far for examples of the kind of narrow-mindedness I'm afraid of: look at Holebender's feeble contribution to the same debate.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I have a stalker?
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George
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the usual suspects wrote:

Well, I remain optimistic on the whole. But you don't have to look far for examples of the kind of narrow-mindedness I'm afraid of: look at Holebender's feeble contribution to the same debate.


He's treating you with deserved contempt.....same as I do.

I notice that the Unionist press have started preventing online comments to many articles..............I wonder why? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
I notice that the Unionist press have started preventing online comments to many articles..............I wonder why?


Maybe they've been "Anglified"?  Shocked

Or maybe because the vast majority of CyberNats are semi-literate, paranoid obsessives?
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