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can anyone but labour win glasgow east?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: can anyone but labour win glasgow east? Reply with quote

I say no, i just cannot see it - i think they'll take a huge whack and it'll be a few thousand votes but they'll still win - if ladbrokes are still offering 2-1 or what it was according to the record on the daily ranger i'm going to put a healthy sum on it..

no way i can see labour losng this

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if Margaret Curran stands and she wins, will there by a by-election of an MSP, and can Labour win that?

Wouldn't it just annoy the electorate if they have to go and vote twice?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this might snooker Labour a bit

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/new...ing-office-home-staffed-wife.html

Labour MP spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running office from home staffed by wife

By Michael Tait
Last updated at 10:23 PM on 05th July 2008


David Marshall used expenses to run an office from his home which was staffed by his wife Tina
A Labour MP used almost £500,000 of taxpayers' money over six years to help run an office from his home which was staffed by his wife.

David Marshall, 67, who has quit to spark the Glasgow East by-election on July 24, used the expenses to pay for a constituency office and staff.

But Mr Marshall's office was in his semi-detached Glasgow home and he employed his wife Tina as his secretary. It is also believed he paid his daughter Christina to work from his home from the same pool of money.

A Commons spokesman said MPs can use their home as an office but only claim for additional costs like 'extra phone lines, heating and lighting'.

From 2001-2007, Mr Marshall claimed £91,000 incidental expenses provision, which is used to pay for constituency offices, plus £400,000 for staff and £11,000 for their travel expenses
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half a million!?!

If it means labour don't get back in it could just be money well spent!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the SoS, internal polling by the Labour Party shows that the majority is only 5,500, which can be more easily overturned, particularly in revelations about Labour keep surfacing.

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman....an-rides-to-the-rescue.4260619.jp
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the precedent of other MSPs sitting in the Commons and Lords, I don't think Curran would resign from Holyrood if elected to Westminster. Labour won't want another by-election if they can possibly avoid it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would appear that an even bigger scandal is about to surface :

ELEVEN GLASGOW LABOUR COUNCILLORS UNDER INVESTIGATION
Fan Hitter PR
05/07/2008
Region : All

Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre.

The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located.

The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.

The report which was presented by Councillor Ryan at a meeting on 20 March 2008, and subsequently led to the council’s endorsement of its recommendations, stated that the owners of the land had agreed to provide the lease at a reduced rate to the Council. However, the forty page complaint document submitted to the Standards Commission included information that clearly indicated that no such deal had been made with the council.

Councillor Ryan also faces investigation for other breaches of the Code of Conduct in relation to this matter along with ten other high profile Glasgow City Council Labour councillors including the Council leader, Steven Purcell.

Paddy’s Market representative, Brian Daly said:
“This market has been here for over 150 years, and my family has been trading here for three generations. The Labour councillors who are intent on closing us down have failed in their responsibilities as elected members to engage with us at any time in relation to this. They have, instead, chosen to make backroom decisions and bulldozer them through without any regard for the democratic process.
“The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate.
“Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process. Instead there has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project.
“Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won’t put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer. We very much look forward to the outcome of the investigation.”

For further information please contact Caroline Weintz – Fan Hitter PR on: 07717 326 919 or by email at caroline@fan-hitter.co.uk
Editors’ Notes

The other ten Labour councillors have been reported to the Standards Commission are: Councillor Steven Purcell – Council Leader

Councillor James Coleman – Deputy Leader of the Council

Councillor Aileen Colleran – Council Business Manager Councillor

Stephen Curran – City Treasurer

Bailie Gordon Matheson – local councillor for Paddy’s Market Bailie Hanzala Malik

Councillor Stephen Doran Councillor Archie Graham Councillor Ruth Simpson Councillor Shaukat Butt

The Code of Conduct for Councillors forms part of the Ethical Standards in Public Life etc. (Scotland) Act 2000


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Looks like the   's have finall come home to roost...... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note the City Treasurer's name. Any relation to the new Glasgow East candidate?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: can anyone but labour win glasgow east? Reply with quote

kevin04 wrote:
I say no, i just cannot see it - i think they'll take a huge whack and it'll be a few thousand votes but they'll still win - if ladbrokes are still offering 2-1 or what it was according to the record on the daily ranger i'm going to put a healthy sum on it..

no way i can see labour losng this


Ladbrokes are offering odds of 5/6 for Labour  and 5/6 for SNP when I last looked
http://politicalbetting.com/

http://politicalbetting.bestbetti...tions/glasgow-east/winning-party#

I agree with you Kevin I think Labour will take it but with a significantly dented majority.
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