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Jimbo · Our Scotland = 2nd Job! Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 1086

The alleged French accusation that the English committed war crimes at Agincourt, where hundreds of prostrate French prisoners had their throats slit on the orders of Henry V, have been commented on by novelist Bernard Cornwell and history blogger Robert Wilde from European History Guide.

Mr Cornwell comments: War crime? Battle of Agincourt was our finest hour.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net...r-crime-battle-agincourt-our.html

Mr Wilde comments: Last weekend British newspapers were up in arms about comments allegedly made by Christophe Gilliot, director of the Centre Historique Médiéval, a museum in Agincourt, France. He was supposed to have accused the British of perpetrating war crimes during the Battle of Agincourt.

M Gilliot denies making the allegations and claims to have been misquoted by the English press.

For the record: No Scots were involved in this atrocity on either side.

Runaway Weegie · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject:

Gilliot probably said 'les anglaises' and the translation 'British' was made by an English journalist.

Scots did fight in the Hundred Years War between England and France though I don't know if there were any Scots at Agincourt.

We fought for the French, naturallement.

Aventinian

Jimbo · Our Scotland = 2nd Job! Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 1086

Hi Runaway Weegie,

M Gilliot knows precisely who was at Agincourt. For him there was no ambiguity, for him, in this instance, England and Britain were not synonymous. It was the historical blogger Mr. Wilde, who substituted Britain for England.

Yes, Scots fought in their thousands on the side of the French during the Hundred Years war. From about 1419, Scotland had a standing army (which at it's peak was estimated 7,000 - 10,000) fighting in France.

A Scots army under the command of the Earl of Buchan defeated an English army under the command of the Duke of Clarence (brother of Henry V and heir to the throne) at Bauge, 1421, leading the Pope to proclaim that the Scots were indeed an antidote to the English. Clarence was killed during the battle.

No Scots were reported as being at Agincourt.

Jimbo · Our Scotland = 2nd Job! Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 1086

Blackadder · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:

Let's face it ... back then, everybody was committing what we would call war crimes!

This just more of the revisionist PC brigade at work!!! Evil or Very Mad

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Luke P · Gaining a Reputation Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 218

I've always found the concept of "war crimes" as oxymoronic as "friendly fire" or "military intelligence" since the whole conduct of warfare is itself rather criminal.
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Morph · Our Scotland = 2nd Job! Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 916

Aventinian its not often we agree but until the Hague convention in the late 1800's early 1900's so it cant be judged as such.

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