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cullen-skink
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Come the UK General Election... |
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I live in dinburgh SW. Now I pretty much always voted Labour up to 1997. I haven't been able to stomach them much since then.
As time went by, I found the SNP more attractive and I suppose I would be an SNP voter now. Come the GE though, I don't think they realistically have much of a chance here. I have a pretty grim choice though: Darling, the nearest rivals LD, who I really have no time for, or a pretty forlorn SNP vote.
Who to choose? Basically, I was wondering if any one else votes tactically and if so, who for?
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Ultra
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| cullen-skink wrote: | I live in dinburgh SW. Now I pretty much always voted Labour up to 1997. I haven't been able to stomach them much since then.
As time went by, I found the SNP more attractive and I suppose I would be an SNP voter now. Come the GE though, I don't think they realistically have much of a chance here. I have a pretty grim choice though: Darling, the nearest rivals LD, who I really have no time for, or a pretty forlorn SNP vote.
Who to choose? Basically, I was wondering if any one else votes tactically and if so, who for? |
If the SNP had delivered the election promises they promised and came up with intelligent ideas on how to move Scotland forward I may well have voted for them.
But they haven't delivered and now that they have run out of other parties ideas to get them by the focus has switched solely to independence. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| Ultra wrote: |
If the SNP had delivered the election promises they promised and came up with intelligent ideas on how to move Scotland forward I may well have voted for them. |
Who are you kidding?
Your Brit Natism would prevent any such idea from crossing your mind.
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Ultra
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| Stevie wrote: | | Ultra wrote: |
If the SNP had delivered the election promises they promised and came up with intelligent ideas on how to move Scotland forward I may well have voted for them. |
Who are you kidding?
Your Brit Natism would prevent any such idea from crossing your mind. |
Do you still get your postal vote in France Stevie?
How do you know what I think Stevie?
What are your experiences of Scotland currently Stevie to base your decision on who you would vote for? |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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You seem to think you know what I think and 'don't like'.
A set of questions designed to make me waste my time.
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Ultra
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | You seem to think you know what I think and 'don't like'.
A set of questions designed to make me waste my time. |
You are wasting our time Stevie as you know very little about Scotland currently and post up threads with ill thought out ideas from afar.
I would rather debate independence and come up with solutions and move Scotland forward than wasting time discussing things with a plastic Scot like you. |
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Stevie
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'plastic Scot'... ouch, that hurts.
Brit Nat, Brit Nat, Brit Nat.
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Stevie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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One reason not to vote Labour :
they didn't manage the purse strings very well. Actually, in this case they didn't spend the money allocated to them... incompetence or supplication to their Westminster spymasters? | Quote: |
It is not as if these amnesiacs were not given the money; as was pointed put in a statement earlier this year, the coalition handed an awful lot of money back to HM Treasury because they did not spend the money allocated. I wonder why this was the case? We are all familiar with the Use it or lose it philosophy, but still how on earth did they manage to hand back the following sums: 2002-03 £394 million, 2003-04 £623 million, 2004-05 £382 million, 2005-06 £139 million and 2006-07 £135 million. To put it in simple terms, in their last 5 years in office they handed back £1.673 billion to the Treasury. An awful lot of money, some of which could have been spent on crumbling schools, smaller class sizes, slopping out at prisons, to name but a few.
How coincidental that the election of an SNP Government led to the tightest budget settlement since the Parliament was elected, and an even bigger squeeze coming with the credit crunch; did the Illiberal Labourites have instructions from London on spending they had them for everything else? Or is it the case that because they did not spend the budget the Treasury thought that they had more than enough, but it was Scotland that bore the brunt and not the politicians. |
compliled by Jim Lynch (Scots independent magazine)
Well, no surprises there then.
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Dave Coull
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| cullen-skink wrote: | | I was wondering if any one else votes tactically |
I often vote tactically, if I vote at all. When I lived in Devon, I voted Liberal Democrat tactically. I knew the Tory candidate personally, and couldn't stand him. But nowadays, if I lived in England, I might even be tempted to vote Tory tactically. I think if David Cameron gets a majority, he might stand a fair chance of being the last prime minister of the united kingdom. |
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Shagpile
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| cullen-skink wrote: | I live in dinburgh SW. Now I pretty much always voted Labour up to 1997. I haven't been able to stomach them much since then.
As time went by, I found the SNP more attractive and I suppose I would be an SNP voter now. Come the GE though, I don't think they realistically have much of a chance here. I have a pretty grim choice though: Darling, the nearest rivals LD, who I really have no time for, or a pretty forlorn SNP vote.
Who to choose? Basically, I was wondering if any one else votes tactically and if so, who for? |
Well vote Labour and you'll get cuts.
Vote Tory........ and you'll get bigger cuts.
Vote Lib Dem and you'll get nothing.
Vote SNP and you will seriously wory all of the above three.
Vote BNP as a protest and again you will worry the big Westminster three.
But here's somthing original....... vote what you think is best for your priorities. If you want to vote tactically and are wanting advice, go to a bookie. |
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Fidget
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| cullen-skink wrote: | | dinburgh |
That's probably what Westminster calls it as well.  |
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Shagpile
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| Fidget wrote: | | cullen-skink wrote: | | dinburgh |
That's probably what Westminster calls it as well. |
Now there's a case in point......
Fidget really, really wants a referendum on independence. I'm of the view he wont be voting SNP any time soon. The only party commited to having one.
So will he be voting tactically? Who knows....... maybe he's just clueless.
Yet it does illustrate why the Scots should be given a referendum on independence....... helped you any? What do you think? |
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Fidget
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| Shagpile wrote: | | Fidget wrote: | | cullen-skink wrote: | | dinburgh |
That's probably what Westminster calls it as well. |
Now there's a case in point......
Fidget really, really wants a referendum on independence. I'm of the view he wont be voting SNP any time soon. The only party commited to having one.
So will he be voting tactically? Who knows....... maybe he's just clueless.
Yet it does illustrate why the Scots should be given a referendum on independence....... helped you any? What do you think? |
My remark was tongue in cheek. But anyway, I do want to see a referendum on Scottish Independence. The sooner the better. |
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magister ludi
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:33 am Post subject: Re: Come the UK General Election... |
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| Ultra wrote: |
If the SNP had delivered the election promises they promised and came up with intelligent ideas on how to move Scotland forward I may well have voted for them. |
Your're not thinking "tactical defection" are you? Could be a good career move though,.......you know, get in before the rush. |
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landg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Coull wrote: | | cullen-skink wrote: | | I was wondering if any one else votes tactically |
I often vote tactically, if I vote at all. When I lived in Devon, I voted Liberal Democrat tactically. I knew the Tory candidate personally, and couldn't stand him. But nowadays, if I lived in England, I might even be tempted to vote Tory tactically. I think if David Cameron gets a majority, he might stand a fair chance of being the last prime minister of the united kingdom. |
you think cameron will be prime minister for,what, hundreds of years? |
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landg
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| i will vote for one of the moderate centre right parties but not the snp, too many broken promises. waffle and kaschtumping. and then the issue of broken promises on a referendum on independence. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| landg wrote: | | i will vote for one of the moderate centre right parties but not the snp, too many broken promises. waffle and kaschtumping. and then the issue of broken promises on a referendum on independence. |
Of course a Brit Nat would never vote SNP. Waffling on about 'broken promises', this being the new approach on the board here.
They try... though not very well. Not even a tiny little bit convincing.
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landg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | | landg wrote: | | i will vote for one of the moderate centre right parties but not the snp, too many broken promises. waffle and kaschtumping. and then the issue of broken promises on a referendum on independence. |
Of course a Brit Nat would never vote SNP. Waffling on about 'broken promises', this being the new approach on the board here.
They try... though not very well. Not even a tiny little bit convincing. |
thing is though, i'm convinced as are the majority of scottish voters who vote pro-union.
your opinion is just that, an opinion. results are facts and facts are facts.
the majority vote pro-union and there will not even be an referendum on a referendum on independence. |
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Stevie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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What happened to the I would vote SNP if there weren't too many broken promises especially the referendum (that all yoo Brit Nats are against anyway).
More effort to stop you contradicting yourself is required.
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landg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Stevie wrote: | What happened to the I would vote SNP if there weren't too many broken promises especially the referendum (that all yoo Brit Nats are against anyway).
More effort to stop you contradicting yourself is required. |
i'm comfortable with the snp's centre right policies just not the indepedence thing thus i will never vote for them.
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