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azzuri · 'Our Scotland' Fossil Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 3777

how many wards are there in this council?
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Aventinian · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:30 am Post subject:

http://www.penzance-town-council.org.uk/mbrwards.htm

There you go. Courtesy of the wonders of Google.

Abieuan · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject:

Cheers Aventinian.

The Council elections south of the border are a bit confusing, they have District Councils and Parish/Town Councils.
They do not elect all of their representitives at the same time.
Penwith District Council, of which Pensans/Penzance is a part will be electing in thirds, ie when a council election is due in England one third of seats in the district will hold an election.

In this year's election there will be eleven seats contested, Mebyon Kernow have only put three candidates forward so far, and they will probably win them, but money is a problem fighting the big parties.

Leathlaobhair · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject:

They're increasing, at least. I read about them sometimes in CARN. Plus I think they get help from Plaid...
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Abieuan · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:00 am Post subject:

Plaid do suport them and give help, but all donations stay in Cymru.
Why not join Plaid Cymru or Mebyon Kernow and add to the coffers?

Leathlaobhair · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:08 am Post subject:

Cymro · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:59 am Post subject:

The Welsh, Cornish and Breton languages all come from the Brythonic family of Celtic languages so are very simmilar, while the Gàidhlig, Gaeilge and Manx all come from the Goedelic family and are simmilar to each other.

I know Plaid Cymru give some support to Mebyon Kernow, but its more adivce based than anything. No money or anything goes between the parties. In the same ways Plaid and the SNP also share advice on things.

Aventinian · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:38 am Post subject:

Leathlaobhair · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject:

I could understand virtually no spoken Welsh (as an Irish speaker) until I learned some. Some things sound similar, but it's like how an Englisih speaker couldn't natively understand German.

Also, didn't Plaid Cymru rename themselves to Y Blaid?
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Cymro · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:

I don't think an Irish speaker and a Welsh speaker could communicate properly to eachother in their own languages to be honest. Some words a common, but not enough to form sentences. I Breton and a Welsh speaker would be more likely or a Cornish speaker. My dad managed to have a short conversation with a Breton speaker with him speaking a combination of Welsh and French to the Breton and the Breton speaker speaking a combination of Breton and French back.

Plaid Cymru has allways been unofficially known as 'Y Blaid' or 'Plaid' amongst many people in Wales. Plaid meaning 'Party' in the political sense. a rebranding exercise a couple of months ago which also saw a new logo they decided to use the name 'Plaid'. The official name is still Plaid Cymru, the Party of Wales though.

Leathlaobhair · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject:

Are there any Cornish/Welsh nationalist website forums like this one that you know of, Cymro or Abieuan? I tried maes-e.com, but my Welsh is horrible...
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Abieuan · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject:

If you don't know the Cornwall24 forum, Leathlaobhair, i think you'll like it.

The people who talked about the weather and dogs and cats are all gone now.

Leathlaobhair · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject:

It looks great, thanks!
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Blackleaf · Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

I hope that one day, the Shetland Islands get their independence from Scotland.

Cornwall has been a part of England for longer than the Shetlands have been a part of Scotland. They have only been a part of Scotland since 1472.

They are also, unlike Scotland, quite pro-English.

A few weeks before the 2002 World Cup, there was an England – Denmark friendly game, and a Scottish tabloid sent a pack of hacks to Lerwick in the hope of finding thousands of Denmark supporters (being a group of islands that used to belong to Norway). Not a single one could be identified: everybody in Shetland supported England.

Blackleaf · Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:

And there are, or were, Shetland Islands and Orkney Islands equivalent of Mebyon Kernow.

There is "Movement for Independent Shetland" and "Orkney Movement."
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Aventinian · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:

It does seem a bit much that these islands, as mere possessions of Scotland rather than part of it, are under the influence of the Scottish Parliament without any sort of consultation.

I'd be equally annoyed if the good people of Berwick were placed under the jurisdiction of an English Parliament/Assembly in the future.

All of the above certainly have more claim to autonomy from the subdivisions of the UK than Cornwall does.
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Cymro · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:01 am Post subject:

If the people of Shetland and the Orkenys decide "We want independence" then that is what they should have. I would support it 100%. But given the choice "Would you like to be part on an independent Scotland or England" I would think the vast majority would choose Scotland.

Aventinian · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject:

Cymro · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: